The Court Overseeing NSA Spying Has Already Found It Violated The Constitution

Business Insider ^ | 6-10-13 | Michael Kelly

[aMorePerfectUnion]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to give the government the benefit of the doubt in regards to dragnet domestic surveillance.

Even before Glenn Greenwald published a top secret court order compelling Verizon to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems and interviewed NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, there were credible reports that the NSA was intercepting U.S. communications.

The most significant of those occurred in July, when the court that was established to "hear applications for and grant orders approving electronic surveillance," called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), found that the NSA violated the Fourth Amendment's restriction against unreasonable searches and seizures "on at least one occasion."

Here's the letter from Senator Ron Wyden:

"… on at least one occasion the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held that some collection carried out pursuant to section 702 minimization procedures used by the government was unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment."

We don't know the details of the classified order, but it's clear that it's a very important aspect of the domestic spying apparatus that even the court overseeing the program found it straying into illegal territory.

Here's the relevant text of the amendment:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

[charlie72]

(#5 then the government clearly believes we are the potential terrorists.)

Yes, DHS already put that into print in 2009 at the bottom of p. 2 in a booklet(U//FOUO)(which means Unclassified, For Official Use Only) Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment. “Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

That was in 2009. Since 2012, they can add opposition to gay marriage, gay soldiers, gay athletes, etc. gun control, border control, criticizing Islam, a strict Constitution, voter ID, spying on citizens, Arab Spring, Muslim Brotherhood, and anything else this administration approves of. Ethics and morality have been turned upside down. If violence ensues at the Million Muslim March on 9/11/2013, Marxist-Muslim Obama may declare martial law. A Dallas CAIR director, Mustafa Carroll, said, “If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land.” That means practicing Islam is treason. Islam is not just a religion, it is a government, as seen in Iran, where Valerie Jarrett was born.

[MestaMachine]

Of course they know it. Yhey knew it before they did it. It didn’t stop them then and it won’t stop them now.

[MestaMachine]

Been there. Done that.

[tet68]

Zero, That’s why I find it questionable that only
one was turned down. There should have been a lot
more considering the number of requests. Which
I imagine were in the thousands, something very
wrong about that.

[cuban leaf]

Of COURSE they violated the constitution.

Their argument is the equivalent of them coming to your home and searching the entire place, photocopying every document and photographing every room as well as copying the data off your hard drive and then saying, “we promise not to actually look at anything we’ve come away with unless you are involved in a criminal investigation. Then we will get a search warrant from a judge to search through all the stuff we collected.”

That is how I have seen this from day one and why I consider it so insidious. And the claims that it is effective fall on deaf ears. Random house to house searches would be effective as well. It’s still unconstitutional.

They think we are idiots and, based on the type of people we elect, they are probably right, generally speaking.

[null and void]

Will no one rid us of this troublesome pest?

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Dallas CAIR director, Mustafa Carroll, said, “If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land.”
That means practicing Islam is treason to the Law of the Land and the U.S. Constitution .

Islam is not just a religion, it is a government ( theocracy), as seen in Iran, and other Near East countries where religion becomes the government .
Establishment of a ‘State religion’ is expressly forbidden by the Constitution , and that is why Islamicists ignore the Constitution , especially the Islamicist who currently heads the Executive office.