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Why Snowden Asked Visitors in Hong Kong to Refrigerate Their Phones
nytimes ^ | 6/25 | murphy

Posted on 06/26/2013 6:27:23 AM PDT by RummyChick

“What you want to do is block the radio signals which could be used to transmit voice data, and block the audio altogether,” Adam Harvey, a designer specializing in countersurveillance products explained. Refrigerators made from metal with thick insulation could potentially do both, he says, regardless of whether it is mild or icy within.

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1 posted on 06/26/2013 6:27:23 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I believe your microwave oven is a Faraday cage. That might work also.


2 posted on 06/26/2013 6:29:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very interesting!


3 posted on 06/26/2013 6:30:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ClearCase_guy

Just don’t hit start...


4 posted on 06/26/2013 6:30:15 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: RummyChick

Microwaves work particularly well.


5 posted on 06/26/2013 6:31:07 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: RummyChick

Doesnt sleep mode inhibit all phone signal communications?
That was the whole purpose.

I keep mine (iphone 5) in sleep much of the day when I wont use it.

If it cant transmit or receive it cant be remotely turned on.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 6:32:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

My understanding has been that the battery has to be removed to end all radio transmissions, short of the barrier method they are suggesting.


7 posted on 06/26/2013 6:33:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

From the movies...don’t you want to remove the SIM card..or is that only so you won’t be tracked


8 posted on 06/26/2013 6:34:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Sorry, try

Doesnt sleep airplane mode inhibit all phone signal communications?
That was the whole purpose.

I keep mine (iphone 5) in sleep airplane mode much of the day when I wont use it.

If it cant transmit or receive it cant be remotely turned on.

As far as I can tell my phone never turns off completely but many battery reg apps allow you to shutdown any app.

9 posted on 06/26/2013 6:35:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: RummyChick

In case people don’t know, the reason this was done is because, even if your phone is off, someone tapping into your phone can listen in on whatever is going on in the room through the microphone. So, essentially, we are all carrying bugs on us most of the time.


10 posted on 06/26/2013 6:36:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 9YearLurker
correction here :#9
11 posted on 06/26/2013 6:36:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Boogieman

but you could just take your battery out...or is there some other little battery in there we don’t know about


12 posted on 06/26/2013 6:37:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sickoflibs

I recently heard the CIO of the CIA tell an audience the battery had to be out for you to not be tracked.


13 posted on 06/26/2013 6:40:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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This is comment in wika

One feature of Airplane mode is that it saves power. Because the device doesn't search for a network signal as in other modes, the battery lasts longer.’

Which is why I started using Airplane mode, but I also have free battery doctor.

14 posted on 06/26/2013 6:41:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
Doesnt sleep mode inhibit all phone signal communications? That was the whole purpose.

Not necessarily, although that is what we are being told. I have detected radio signals from my phone while in sleep mode (in a lab, of course). Not even removing the battery will interrupt all potential for transmission and / or recording, as there are small batteries on the boards themselves.

15 posted on 06/26/2013 6:41:56 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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There is a reason we were not allowed to bring the danged things into any controlled access areas of a facility. It didn’t matter of they were on/off, batteries/SIM cards removed. The only way to be sure was to not have them around.


16 posted on 06/26/2013 6:42:04 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe your microwave oven is a Faraday cage. That might work also.

So would a small piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the phone, or a tin box and lid.

17 posted on 06/26/2013 6:44:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Finally, a use for the metal box in which one of my watches was sold a few years ago. I can envision keeping my phone in one of those at times, if for no other reason than to tick off the NSA. :)


18 posted on 06/26/2013 6:45:38 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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RE :”There is a reason we were not allowed to bring the danged things into any controlled access areas of a facility. It didn’t matter of they were on/off, batteries/SIM cards removed. The only way to be sure was to not have them around.”

That is what I concluded. It is not the phone that lies during airplane mode, but its the people who cant be trusted who possess them. Snowdon wanted them in a cooler so he knew no-one was recording him. Same with those gov jobs.

To avoid ‘I could have sworn in was in AP mode, I dont know how this happened’

19 posted on 06/26/2013 6:48:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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“What you want to do is block the radio signals which could be used to transmit voice data, and block the audio altogether,”

Clever!

20 posted on 06/26/2013 6:48:21 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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