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Obama administration pushes new public health research agenda on gun control
fox ^ | June 26, 2013 | George Russell

Posted on 06/27/2013 12:50:06 AM PDT by Red Steel

In the near future, Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

They will also likely have more researchers poring over such issues as whether childhood education programs against gun violence actually work; whether there actually is any relationship between violence in the media and in real life; and whether the safety plans that were drawn up by schools, colleges and communities in the wake of highly publicized mass shootings actually are effective.

Those and many other gun-related questions are the thrust of a new social science research agenda that the Obama administration hopes will keep the push for gun control alive for years to come.

The research agenda is intended to produce mammoth amounts of raw data on American gun owners, users and their circumstances, meaning that violence resulting from firearms use will be studied for “its causes, approaches to interventions that could prevent it, and strategies to minimize its health burden.”

This includes, for example, such things as “the potential health risks and benefits (e.g., suicide rates, personal protection) of having a firearm in the home under a variety of circumstances (including storage practices) and settings.”

The agenda, which aims to sidestep Second Amendment political and constitutional issues of gun ownership through its public health focus, was released earlier this month in a 124-page report titled, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearms Related Violence.” It was sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) with financial support from private foundations.

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To: Red Steel

I keep a howitzer in the back yard aimed at the I.R.S. building.

Any other stupid questions?


41 posted on 06/27/2013 7:11:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: Red Steel
Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

and the answer should ALWAYS be NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

42 posted on 06/27/2013 7:16:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I think they believe there is a good chance they will lose the Senate, too, next November.

As always, the GOP-e will do everything in its power to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

43 posted on 06/27/2013 7:24:51 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: M Kehoe

Its also obvious that Obamao and his brown shirts have realized that the government has trained a whole lot of military personnel who love America to expertly handle and enjoy firearms -— who are coming home in big numbers. Since these people are a high threat to his tyrannical plans, don’t doubt for a minute that he won’t have them diagnosed with PTSD and require medications and therapy. Hence no gun ownership will be allowed for all these very capable patriots, i.e. our self defense against tyranny.


44 posted on 06/27/2013 7:27:46 AM PDT by BMCinSC
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To: hattend

Yes they will.

If you buy ammo, travel to a gun store or show, get a Cabelas catalog, the NSA will flag you and cross reference your data.


45 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Red Steel
this government's assault on the Second Amendment will not stop until they totally disarm the people or the people takes back control of the US government. The election system is corrupted so it would be foolish to count on electing the right people to help restore the Constitution.
46 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:51 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Thane_Banquo

Painfully true. The old guard Republicans don’t want to win, they just want to get invited to all the dinner parties.


47 posted on 06/27/2013 7:52:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
"The availability of ammo is never going to improve."

Wrong. The availability of guns has already dramatically improved. Retail stores and gun show tables are full of AR-15's and M4's at less than $1,000 apiece. Less than half of the asking prices of just a few months ago.

All types of centerfire ammo is also now available, albeit still at somewhat elevated prices as compared to a year ago.

Rimfire ammo is another story. Fearful folks have striped the shelves clean and wait in line to buy much more than they will ever use. It is very difficult to reason with such kooks, survivalists and wannabe revolutionaries. But in time they will hoard enough or run out of money and things will return to a new normal.

And don't blame the manufacturers. They have never produced more ammunition and are totally maxed out. Their analyst's advice against massive investment to satisfy a short term panic. There is also a long lead time to acquire and install new equipment in yet to be built production facilities.

We have met the enemy. It is those who have purchased unneeded and/or excessive stores of ammunition.

48 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:08 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Steel; All

Lying to the government is a form a Patriotism if the government is out to deprive you of fundamental rights.

lie. Defy. Do not comply.


49 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Steel; Joe Brower; Winstons Julia; hattend

There is anecdotal evidence all over social media, about how health providers are even now making gun inquiries during routine medical visits.

Hattend is right: practice Taqiyyah and tell them “No”.


50 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:44 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Red Steel
And in other news. Have a Happy Independence Day at your local park courtesy of your local government Nazis.
51 posted on 06/27/2013 8:45:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MaxMax

Who said Obama is leaving office?


52 posted on 06/27/2013 8:56:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Red Steel

If this gets off the ground, it will have all the credibility that “climate research” enjoys. Those making a living from the research will find there is good reason to remove guns from everyone save the “authorities.”

Even if they have to prove their reasoning through the use of tree-ring evidence from Siberia.


53 posted on 06/27/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: hattend
"When asked, lie!

Are they going to come to your house?"

Eventually, yes...they will. Lying will work for the time being, but understand...the statist dictators need you to be disarmed in order for their agenda to advance to its Orwellian end. All the dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge techniques, and cute and clever ways of not giving them what they want will eventually result in them just coming and taking it...and/or you.

Lie all you want, but make no mistake...they want your (our) guns, and are going to come after them no matter what you (we) do. These partial steps they're taking are just cover, so they can say, "well, we tried" before they start kicking in doors and rounding us up.

It's (way past) time to draw a line, and make a stand.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

54 posted on 06/27/2013 9:51:32 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"lie. Defy. Do not comply."

And when they eventually come to search your house/arrest you anyway, are you ready to do your real patriotic duty? Lying is a great temporary measure, but make no mistake...it's not going to stop their efforts to take your guns. The worst is going to happen.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

55 posted on 06/27/2013 9:57:12 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Red Steel

Same old, same old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry


56 posted on 06/27/2013 10:32:18 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Buffalo Head

Good post. I disagree a bit in that I think the “Hoarders” are actually doing a public good. Ammo reserved for a true crisis is valuable, even more than ammo used today for recreation or training.


57 posted on 06/27/2013 11:19:04 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Winstons Julia
How do they propose to do this “research”? Voluntary questionnaire or mandatory thing from Census Bureau?

Regardless, I intend to tell them it isn't any of their business.

Deflect, distract, dissuade, and just don't give them an answer they can construe as a lie. Be evasive, remember that appointment, get a group of friends together who will all call you in five minute intervals for an hour or two if they stop by --one text to get things rolling and do the same for each other. (Oops, sorry, I have to take this call!--then talk about the weather.). Just don't let them in. Make them stand in the hall or on the steps. Make getting anything approaching an answer out of you a real pain in the butt, and then don't tell them anything.

They don't NEED to know.

58 posted on 06/27/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jerrybob
Are they going to come to your house? You think they WON'T????

I fill a doorway pretty well. Not short of assault or a warrant, they won't.

59 posted on 06/27/2013 2:04:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: headstamp 2
This is how they started the destruction of our institutions back in the 60’s.

They have been at this for 100 years+.

60 posted on 06/27/2013 2:09:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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