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New Scouting Program: “Press Conference with New Interim Director”
OnMyHonor.Net ^ | 7/09/2013 | Rob Green

Posted on 07/09/2013 1:55:18 PM PDT by MacNaughton

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God speed!!!
1 posted on 07/09/2013 1:55:18 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

And so it goes. Goodbye BSA—you were good for awhile.


2 posted on 07/09/2013 1:59:24 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: MacNaughton

Indeed.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 1:59:29 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MacNaughton

good. i wish conservatives could get their act together for a third party as quickly.


4 posted on 07/09/2013 2:01:28 PM PDT by dadfly
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It would be so sweet if by this time next year this organization had absorbed the majority of the membership of the Gay Scouts of America.

I'll send them money.

5 posted on 07/09/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (This is a sarcasm tag for the retards unable to recognize sarcasm.)
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To: MacNaughton; Albion Wilde

I hope this new organization forms soon.


6 posted on 07/09/2013 2:02:26 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: House Atreides

The only bummer is all the property the queers get to keep. Wonder if the feds will try and bar them from using national forests based on their values. Maybe some large donors will get together and buy a Philmont replacement.


7 posted on 07/09/2013 2:05:48 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: MacNaughton

It would be nice to get some alignment with Promise Keepers.


8 posted on 07/09/2013 2:05:53 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: MacNaughton

The homosexuals destroyed the Boy Scouts. Let’s see what else the homosexuals will wreck, besides each other’s lives.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 2:06:22 PM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
7 ... Wonder if the feds will try and bar them from using national forests based on their values. ...

You have a good memory.

5/28/1993 - Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt reinstated a National Park Service order prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in the Service's Western Region. Under the order, BSA members could have been barred from volunteering in the National Parks. Subsequent public outrage over the Secretary's decision ensured that BSA members would not be barred from National Parks.

10 posted on 07/09/2013 2:16:54 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

The speed of this is impressive. First meeting two weeks ago, nationwide launch by the end of the year. That’s really something. I’m sure God’s blessing will help.

Now we need something like this in the political sphere with the likes of Ted Cruz, Allen West and Sarah Palin leading the charge.


11 posted on 07/09/2013 2:16:57 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: MacNaughton

All the groundwork they have laid over the last 50 years is paying off for them.


12 posted on 07/09/2013 2:18:43 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: MacNaughton

Sounds just great!
It is one thing to recognize that some boys will exhibit homosexual interests, and to make sure they are welcome and not hurt or discriminated against as they work out their maturation. It is altogether another thing to officially approve of the “gay lifestyle” and invite it to be practiced or paraded openly by said youngsters, and by them to all the other boys in Scouting.

The idea of Scouting is to help boys grow up successfully, not to mis-lead them into dysfunctional lifestyles (which, admittedly, a few will still choose... but Scouting should not be seen as a facilitator or enabler of such a choice).


13 posted on 07/09/2013 2:21:17 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((S)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Thanks for the ping! This sounds good. Hope it succeeds as proposed!


14 posted on 07/09/2013 2:22:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: MacNaughton

Man, this is good to hear. I raised my share of hell in scouts, but I can’t begin to count the ways in which it influenced me in a positive way, despite my attempts at the time to screw around.

And maybe that’s the point. Few who enter as a Cub Scout will become an Eagle, but I would argue that every single boy will come out better than he would have if he hadn’t had the positive influence of the old traditional Boy Scouts. Whether you call it osmosis or just good role modeling, it worked for many years, and I’m delighted that some of these new organizations are picking up that mantel.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 2:24:17 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ...

This article is worth an interim ping to the entire list. Any of you who are or were in BSA leadership, take note, investigate, and see if you can work with this group.


16 posted on 07/09/2013 2:25:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I thought the title was "...New Scouting Program: “Press Conference with New Interior Decorator..."

But then I saw it was a new organization...if they adhere to this mission statement and stand by their guns, I will support them.

17 posted on 07/09/2013 2:25:44 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: MacNaughton

sounds good


18 posted on 07/09/2013 2:26:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: faithhopecharity

nothing sexual should be allowed at all


19 posted on 07/09/2013 2:28:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MacNaughton

bkmk


20 posted on 07/09/2013 2:28:33 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: House Atreides

Better to dump BSA now. Look at what GSA turned into.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 2:30:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks!


22 posted on 07/09/2013 2:31:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Albion Wilde

I believe a lot of Scouts and Scouting units were going to tough it out as long as they could in the absence of any alternative. But with the promotion of this new organization, I pray that many more will flee the old sodomized organization for the new one.


23 posted on 07/09/2013 2:33:05 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MacNaughton

Glad to see this.


24 posted on 07/09/2013 2:36:28 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: MacNaughton

B U M P


25 posted on 07/09/2013 2:40:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: GeronL

I think I am suggesting something slightly different, that scouting recognize the sexual interests of boys that age and respond to it in positive ways, insofar as possible, such as thru counseling and maybe some programmatic content that upholds positive roles for the boys to aspire to or grow into.

but your approach could work, too. do you think it is realistic to maintain “nothing sexual should be allowed at all” in Scouting? I mean, they are boys of that age....

and many parents put their boys into scouting hoping for some sort of positive role modeling or at least guidance, perhaps to reinforce what they are trying to provide their kids at home...or perhaps because the parents cannot provide it.

just my 2cents worth. thanks.


26 posted on 07/09/2013 2:42:27 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((S)
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To: MacNaughton

No, they will failattem

Narrowminded attempt to leave that which is good for a certain to fail attempt to meddle


27 posted on 07/09/2013 2:51:04 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: faithhopecharity

If they want my kids they need to stay away from the crud. If they are old enough for sex they are old enough to move out and get jobs


28 posted on 07/09/2013 2:59:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MacNaughton
I know there aren't a lot of spare dollars floating around these days, but if there are, this is certainly an organization that demonstrates a commitment (at least on paper) to principles conservatives can support.

I'll withhold judgment until I see them prove themselves true to their word, but if they can live the values they espouse, I'll contribute.

And bid a reluctant farewell to the Chicken Scouts of America.

29 posted on 07/09/2013 3:07:31 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: MacNaughton
Should make a tempting target for all the pukes at NAMBLA as well as all the other activist queer organizations.

I hope this new organization has hired the requisite army of lawyers to ensure they are bullet proof.

30 posted on 07/09/2013 3:22:20 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply.)
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To: GeronL

I don’t really think that “if they are old enough for sex, they are old enough to move out and get jobs.”

Indeed, it is the ages of most of these boys when they are interested in learning about sex (a mild way of stating it), but are still far too young to move out and get jobs on their own (at least, in modern America).

those “difficult years” if you will .... that all parents have to try to deal with successfully. Scouting can be a lot of help, especially when there is no man in the home...


31 posted on 07/09/2013 3:46:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((S)
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Our homeschooling Troop and Pack will pursue this option and likely sever ties to BSA at the end of year.


32 posted on 07/09/2013 3:47:18 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: bert

No, they will failattem

Narrowminded attempt to leave that which is good for a certain to fail attempt to meddle


Thanks for the comments!


33 posted on 07/09/2013 3:48:36 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: MacNaughton

While adhering to traditional Christian principles is a good foundation, what will sell the organization are the traditional skills taught to the boys.

One of the worst mistakes the BSA made prior to this fiasco was in the 1970s, when they decided to be trendy and urbanize the scouts, with a big push for minority recruitment. It was an unmitigated disaster, created the most unpopular Boy Scout Manual, and resulted in the expensive ruination of several campgrounds.

If you can imagine a Scout Manual written by a community organizer...

In any event, what will appeal to boys and their parents are backwoods and other terrain survival skills and tool use, including knife, hatchet, axe, bow and arrow, rifle, handgun, and shotgun, ropes and knot work, cooking, hygiene, first aid, swimming and running. I would strongly suggest teaching them some judo and karate as well.


34 posted on 07/09/2013 3:59:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: upchuck

Now we need something like this in the political sphere with the likes of Ted Cruz, Allen West and Sarah Palin leading the charge.

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Amen to that!


35 posted on 07/09/2013 4:05:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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34 ... One of the worst mistakes the BSA made prior to this fiasco was in the 1970s, ...

The folks at OnMyHonor.Net are well aware of that disastrous 8-year stretch between 1972-80. Agree with all you stated. I believe that is where they are headed.

36 posted on 07/09/2013 4:05:32 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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This sounds so promising. Prayers up.

Thanks for the ping.


37 posted on 07/09/2013 4:05:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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I have donated to onmyhonor.net, and when this new group forms, I will give to them, too.


38 posted on 07/09/2013 4:55:28 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MacNaughton

What happened from 72 to 80?


39 posted on 07/09/2013 4:57:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Progressives have the reverse Midas touch. Everything they touch turns to... How can they not see it?

Anyway, I’m glad that there is an alternative to the BSA.

But sadly, with the recent SCOTUS decision, I’m afraid that any organization that doesn’t celebrate sodomy will be treated as violators of civil rights. I see a lawsuit in the future.


40 posted on 07/09/2013 5:05:44 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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Good news for boys and their parents. I like yefragetuwrabrumuy's comments. I wonder how to pronounce his screen name though...

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41 posted on 07/09/2013 5:11:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MacNaughton
In addition, the organization’s membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation. The policy will read, in part: “the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.”

As God intended right from the start.

42 posted on 07/09/2013 5:19:43 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: MacNaughton

wow awesome. the Lord provides!


43 posted on 07/09/2013 5:25:07 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: faithhopecharity; GeronL

Not feasible. What you are proposing would be an intervention of sorts. Where do you propose the bodies come from? Have you looked at the numbers of actual involved parents/volunteers? In many units it is abysmal, barely adequate in some units for them to function.

Scouting is run by volunteers at the local level and many are not in any position to deal with the issues that are the domain of the family of the Scout.

BSA should have remained Asexual, as it is, they’ve sold out to the homo lobby, activists and agenda.

It is imperative that any future Scouting remain asexual, it is not the purpose or the responsibility of Scouting to “counsel” these boys. It is the family’s. How are we to “reinforce what they[parents] are trying to provide at home”? Are we to require questionaires, interviews, binders and files full of personal information relating to each individual family’s values and beliefs?

The positive role models are the leaders, that is why units must take extra care in selecting those who are placed as direct contact leaders. To ensure only the best role models are placed with the boys.


44 posted on 07/09/2013 5:31:01 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Albion Wilde; Jeff Head

Watching , reading etc ..... Sounds good. Will check with local scoutmaster and see if he’s heard such.

Thanks for the ping.


45 posted on 07/09/2013 6:47:42 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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In addition, the organization’s membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation. The policy will read, in part: “the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.”

Whoo Hoo!!!

Moral absolutes ping.

46 posted on 07/09/2013 7:10:17 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: GeronL
If they want my kids they need to stay away from the crud. If they are old enough for sex they are old enough to move out and get jobs

At twelve?

You do know that young teens are more than capable of having sex way before they are mature or responsible enough to deal with it?

47 posted on 07/09/2013 7:14:30 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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39 What happened from 72 to 80?

1972 – 1979 – At the end of the 1960s, BSA National saw the underserved communities, primarily in urban areas, and created a new "Urban Emphasis" program. The BSA's modernization was consistent with similar trends in Scouting all over the world starting in the 1960s. Much of these changes could be seen in the 8th edition of the Boy Scout Handbook used from 1972 - 79. The junior leader system, known as the “green bar patrol” was renamed the Leadership Corps. A significant uniform change in the Boy Scout program was made when BSA dropped the traditional garrison cap and adopted a red beret. The rank requirements were changed such that a scout could earn the First Class rank without ever going camping. A tidal wave of frustration arose among veteran scouters who accused the BSA of “taking the outing from Scouting.” The change was so drastic and unpopular that by 1976 long-time veteran, and retired, scouter, William “Green Bar Bill” Hillcourt, began writing the 9th edition of the Boy Scout Handbook to bring back the outdoor camping skills that were omitted in the 8th edition. The Leadership Corps also went back to the “green bar patrol” system, now referred to as the patrol leaders’ council. The Urban Emphasis program was the forerunner of the Scoutreach Division of BSA which was created in 1994 to provide service to rural and urban areas and to minority populations.

1973 – Total youth membership in all 3 BSA programs (Cub, Boy, Explorer) peaked at 4,852,827. It has been generally declining ever since. Other programs were added after 1973 = Tiger Cubs, Webelos, Varsity, Venture, and Learning for Life. It is difficult to find the membership data for the separate programs since 1975. BSA National tends to combine all 3 Cub programs together and Varsity with Boy Scouts. Then you have the confounding problem when BSA stopped reporting Exploring and Learning for Life membership numbers because they were separated out from the traditional programs in the late 1990s. So, the simplest graph to gain sense of BSA’s health would be to look at the youth membership numbers in troops.

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/443_boy_scouts_and_girl_scouts_membership.html

Basically, youth membership, in troops only, declined 44% between 1970 and 1980.

48 posted on 07/09/2013 8:48:13 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: metmom

that was my point


49 posted on 07/09/2013 9:42:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: faithhopecharity

parents should lay down the law not a stranger


50 posted on 07/09/2013 9:45:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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