Posted on 07/21/2013 5:34:04 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Since Canadian born Ted Cruz has emerged on the scene in Washington as a future presidential candidate for 2016, attention has turned to whether he is Constitutionally eligible for Article 2 Section 1, the presidential qualification clause. This is what we know. Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Many say that disqualifies him to be eligible for the presidency. Enter former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm. She was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. I came across an interview she did with Fox News's Chris Wallace in February of 2010. During the interview Wallace brought up the fact that since she was born in Canada, she wasn't eligible to be president. Here is the transcript:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/21/transcript-fox-news-sunday-interview-future-gop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529
"GRANHOLM: No, I’m totally focused this year on creating every single job I can until the last moment. December 31st at midnight is when I’ll stop. So I have no idea what I’m going to do next, but I’m not going to run for president. I can tell you that.
WALLACE: Yes, that’s true. We should point out Governor Granholm is a Canadian and cannot run for president.
GRANHOLM: I’m American. I’ve got dual citizenship.”
With that said, I went to the biography of Jennifer Granholm and found that she was born to one American citizen and is indeed a dual Citizen who became 'NATURALIZED' as a U.S. Citizen in 1980 at the age of 21. Now this raises a question. How can a naturalized U.S. Citizen become president of the United States?
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Since every court in the land has found that there is nobody in America with "standing" to raise an objection, where's the beef?
I believe Cruz was registered at birth as an American citizen and was never registered as a Canadian. He did not have to be naturalized as he was a citizen of only the US.
When a baby is born of parents of two different countries, the parents may choose a single nationality or a double nationality for the baby. The baby is considered a “live birth” until the parents fill out the citizenship papers.
My grandson was born in England to an English mother and American father. The parents had a choice of making him only an American citizen or only a British citizen or a dual citizen. They chose for him to be a dual citizen and my son went to the American embassy that day and registered him as American. He has a full British passport and a full American passport. He does not have to be naturalized in either country as he is a full citizen. When he comes to the states, he uses his American passport and lines up with Americans to enter the country. If his mother comes, she has to get in the foreign country line. Certainly, a person with dual citizenship could not run for president or for prime minister in England. He would have to relinquish the citizenship of the other country in order to have full allegiance to the country where he wanted to hold office. If Britain has the same law we do about holding office, he would have to relinquish his American citizenship, then he could run for prime minister.
Until Cruz himself actually says in public that he was never a Canadian citizen, this will keep coming up. I read early on he was only an American citizen but no one will believe that until it is formally documented by him. If he had dual citizenship, he would have to drop his Canadian citizenship so his allegiance would be only to this country.
If his parents listed him only as Canadian and not American, then he would have to be naturalized later as an American when he came here, just like any person from another country could come here and go through the process to become a naturalized citizen.
I won’t get into that “natural born” citizenship argument. One of these days, Cruz will make a statement that will clear this up. I certainly believe he will tell the truth as truth seems to be a virtue he has. If he is a naturalized citizen, we lose the best candidate for president we could have.
Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, December 22, 1970, to a US citizen mother and a Cuban citizen father. He is a natural born citizen of Canada (Canadian Citizenship Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-19, s. 5(1,3)) and a naturalized US citizen (8 U.S.C. § 1401(g))
The act of naturalization or its date are irrelevant. A person either is or is not a natural born citizen at birth.
“State Department says born of US parents on foreign soil is a US citizen.”
A U.S. Citizen can’t become president anymore according Article 2 Section 1 but a natural born Citizen born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. can. Only at the time of the adoption of the Constitution could a Citizen become a president.
Article 2 Section 1
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Irrelevant, Cruz is a US Citizen. Now cut this crap out.
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html
A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.
My wife and I, both born in the US of A, were in Argentina when my daughter was born.
We filed a Consular Report of Birth Abroad - the notice of a US citizen born abroad with the US Embassy, and got a US passport for her as a baby to come into the states with.
She also had an Argentine birth certificate, identity card and passport, of course.
Since age 18 she has had the option of renouncing her Argentine citizenship and being a single national.
Were she to travel to Argentina, and were she to have been a male, she would have immediately been subject to conscription into the Argentine military, without performing said renunciation.
Even having a single parent who is a US citizen establishes US citizenship at birth.
BUT the natural born citizenship concept, taken to mean a US citizen at birth and with NO divided loyalty (e.g. both parents US citizens at the very least) has been pretty well demolished by recent events, it appears.
But a naturalized citizen, at least, who was not a citizen at birth, would be excluded from running for the presidency, it would seem.
“Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, December 22, 1970, to a US citizen mother and a Cuban citizen father. He is a natural born citizen of Canada (Canadian Citizenship Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-19, s. 5(1,3)) and a naturalized US citizen (8 U.S.C. § 1401(g))”
Good factual educational post Ray.
You added a requirement I don't see in the Constitution.
Another outbreak of scab picking.
These people would object to the Gipper because he was once a Democrat.
A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth.
Do you dispute a fact or law, or do you seek political expediency?
“These people would object to the Gipper because he was once a Democrat”
Not true at all. I voted for Reagan twice despite him being a former democrat. If he was alive and a democrat today, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
The bottom line is Ted Cruz was not born within the jurisdiction of the United States. He is not a natural born Citizen. He is just a U.S. Citizen like he stated earlier today wanting it left up to other people to debate.
Also, births outside of USA from 1965 and later have some different rules
I am a naturalized citizen, born in Germany in 1964 to a US father (US Army), and “not sure if she was US citizen at the time” mother (who was German). I have a Naturlization Certificate from later that year, as my family moved back to the US just months after I was born
Now, in 1965 and later....US children born overseas to US parents did not need the Naturlization papers. So, if I was born a year later...I would not need the form...I would be considered American citizen
What I am getting at....is that Ted Cruz (being born after 1964) can be considered natural born...but Obama would not (if he was not born in Hawaii)...nor would Jennifer Granholm
Besides, back then, the Democrats weren’t the enemies of the country like they are now.
No facts back your assertion.
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