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The Pipe Dream of Easy War
NY Times ^
| July 20, 2013
| H. R. McMASTER
Posted on 07/21/2013 11:39:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: gusopol3
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posted on
07/22/2013 7:53:53 PM PDT
by
gusopol3
To: MasterGunner01
The American Left sees this country is the aggressor in everything we do. It undermines
American interests every chance it gets. The Soviet Union is gone, so the American Left has made
common cause with the Muslim Islamofascists. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Until there's a way to counter the American Left, America can never successfully win a war. The
problem is that the U.S. State Department also undermines American interests because it is
heavily penetrated by the Left. Neither SecState John Fing Kerry or SecDef Chuck Hagel are the
sharpest knives in the drawer. Neither has American interests in mind; they are surrender
monkeys. Ditto for their bosses, Barry Obongo and Vallerie Jarrett. There it is.
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posted on
07/22/2013 9:06:54 PM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
To: neverdem
To: SunkenCiv; Jeff Head; archy
The Chinese wouldnt commit troops to Indochina because the Vietnamese didnt want em there, historically they are enemies.The reds took a break from history during our Vietnam War.
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The most immediate need was for anti-aircraft artillery, units to counter the overwhelming American air power over North Vietnam. Ho would request Chinese AAA units during a meeting with Mao in May of 1965 and PLA forces would begin flowing into North Vietnam in July of 1965 to help defend the capital of Hanoi and the transportation network to include railroad lines and bridges.[50] This movement of troops from China was not lost on the U.S. as reported in a Top Secret CIA Special Report which identified seven major PLA units in North Vietnam to include the 67th AAA Division, and an estimated 25,000 to 45,000 Chinese combat troops total. [51] Recent Chinese sources indicate that this PLA AAA Division did indeed operate in the western area of North Vietnam. [52] In addition to AAA forces the PLA also provided missiles, artillery and logistics, railroad, engineer and mine sweeping forces. These forces would not only man AAA sites but would also build and repair Vietnamese infrastructure damaged or destroyed by U.S. airstrikes. [53] Such units would have quite a bit of repair work to do given that there would be more than a million tons of bombs dropped by U.S. aircraft upon North Vietnam from 1965 to 1972. [54] The Second Vietnam War would drag on for years as a sort of operational stalemate existed in the skies over North Vietnam. The U.S. could and did bomb the North at will, but the sheer numbers of Chinese forces, to include a total of 16 AAA divisions serving with a peak strength of 170,000 troops attained in 1967, would ensure that a high price would be paid by U.S. pilots with targets often rapidly rebuilt after destruction. [55] Chinese engineering and logistics units would perform impressive feats of construction throughout their stay in North Vietnam effectively keeping the transportation network functioning.
The Korean DMZ should have been established along the border with China, and Id be surprised if that isnt accomplished sometime in the next twenty years.
That's why and when the Chicoms got directly involved in the ground combat in the Korean War. Our forces were on or approaching the Yalu River, the historical border between China and Korea, which the Middle Kingdom viewed as another vassal state. An American ally on their border was unacceptable.
The reason the headline is a straw man is, there is no Easy War Pipe Dream main combat really results in rapid success, but our armed forces shouldnt be used as the local gendarmes. It has to be followed by effective local recruitment.
That's only been done in Grenada and Panama, both relatively small and isolated.
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07/23/2013 12:54:21 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(Register pressure cookers! /s)
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