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Getting the lead out, literally: U.S. Army plans switch to ‘green’ bullets
dailycaller.com ^ | 07/24/2013 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 07/25/2013 8:04:26 AM PDT by kimtom

The U.S. Army is taking the expression “get the lead out” quite literally and switching to lead-free, environmentally-friendly bullets.

The Army’s Picatinny Arsenal is working on a “green” version of the M80A1 7.62 mm bullet, which troops are supposed to start being issued in 2014, according to an Army press release.

The Army has been looking to “green” small caliber ammo for some time now. In 2010, the Army switched to the greener 5.56 mm M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round. “The EPR replaces the lead slug with a copper slug,” said Lt. Col. Phil Clark, product manager for small caliber ammunition in the Program Executive Officer Ammunition. “This makes the projectile environmentally-friendly, while still giving soldiers the performance capabilities they need on the battlefield. So far we have eliminated 1,994 metric tons of lead from 5.56 ammunition production.”

“Thirty-two grains of lead are eliminated per M855A1 projectile, and 114.5 grains of lead will be eliminated per M80A1 projectile,” according to the Army.

The Army projects that the use of.....

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammo; military; usarmy; weapon
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To: kimtom
The U.S. Army is taking the expression “get the lead out” quite literally and switching to lead-free, environmentally-friendly bullets.

Lead bullets are NOT the same type of lead say, in lead paint that people freak about. This is complete BS. It's a fallacy.

21 posted on 07/25/2013 8:26:57 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: kimtom
Combined with forced acceptance of (with harsh punishment for objecting to) open, declared homosexuality in the ranks, along with co-ed fighting forces putting women in combat, including on submarines, this is STEP NUMBER THREE in the ongoing process of literally and deliberately sabotaging our military so that it will lose thte next armed conflict.

I repeat: This is Step 3 of the deliberate sabotage of our military.

22 posted on 07/25/2013 8:28:20 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: kimtom

So? I’ve known for the last forty years that the anti-lead panic was really to ban ammo.

For those interested, the FRENCH used solid bronze bullets about 100 years ago.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 8:28:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: kimtom

What’s next, GREEN Nuclear weapons? Geeez!


24 posted on 07/25/2013 8:30:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It doesn’t matter anyway. When the o finishes there will be less than one hundred infantry men/women/its left in the Army anyhow...and they can throw their powder puffs at the enemy.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 8:31:17 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Rio

I’m curious. What happens to a tree if a copper bullet lodges in it?


26 posted on 07/25/2013 8:31:28 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: mountainlion

I think what the military is doing is a mistake, and a waste of copper, but the Barnes bullets I use for hunting give up nothing to lead. The Triple Shocks, with the three recessed rings, get better velocity with lighter loads than conventional lead bullets. I also use lighter grain weights with the copper bullets to avoid over penetration, and to get good expansion. That probably wouldn’t be a consideration for military purposes.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 8:32:07 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Portcall24
.and they can throw their powder puffs at the enemy.

Or spitballs.

28 posted on 07/25/2013 8:32:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Agreed. An idiotic choice that will also affect performance majorly.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 8:32:49 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’ve been trying to start that rumor for years with no success

Even tried to leak fake (but accurate) news stories

But it’s still fun to try


30 posted on 07/25/2013 8:32:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (4 election)
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To: Mr. Lucky

A copper-cored bullet has what plants crave: electrolytes.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 8:33:53 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Venturer

Does anyone here think the Russians or chinee are concerned with “green” or a kinder gentler enviro encounter as they slaughter us? This is insanity defined. Under this kind of thinking, nukes are “environmentally unfriendly” ... no shiiite, buckwheat— war is, too!!


32 posted on 07/25/2013 8:34:57 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: dfwgator

When I was a little boy we used to take a wooden match, cut the head off and replace it with a needle. We’d cut cross slots in the other end and attach two little paper fins. We could make those for them to throw in place of grenades. As long as they said, “Watch out for your eyes,” as they did it.


33 posted on 07/25/2013 8:38:24 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: kimtom

Great idea. Copper bullets. And now all the meth heads will be stealing them to sell for their habit.


34 posted on 07/25/2013 8:38:44 AM PDT by llevrok (The American dream is but a catnap today.)
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To: kimtom; All

35 posted on 07/25/2013 8:39:00 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"...For those interested, the FRENCH used solid bronze bullets about 100 years ago...." And we know how successful they have been in wars since!! (sarc)
36 posted on 07/25/2013 8:39:55 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

This means the end of lead bullets, and the start of civilian ammo costing 5x what it does now, based on the price of copper vs lead.

Hard to hand-cast copper.


37 posted on 07/25/2013 8:41:59 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Bingo


38 posted on 07/25/2013 8:45:21 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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39 posted on 07/25/2013 8:48:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: DBrow
And, “green” (lead free) has nowhere near the storage shelf life of standard ammo. Absent lead styphenate to stabilize the primer, it goes inert. Great way to preclude ammo stockpiling.
40 posted on 07/25/2013 8:56:14 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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