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Um, I am loathe to trust the media....so can someone find out what the Pope REALLY meant?
1 posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Is the Pope Francis saying it’s OK for priests to have sex with men but not with women?


320 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories should not be running public policy...)
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Oh my God. Next he will say he will not judge those who cheat, steal, lie, drink too much (drunkeness), eat too much (gluttony), have sex outside of marriage (fornication) and on and on and on. He isn’t encouraging us to celebrate sin! He is saying love the sinner but hate the sin. Jesus didn’t die for just homosexuals; He died for all sinners. Me and you too :)


325 posted on 07/29/2013 12:02:26 PM PDT by Scarlet7
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My guess is that these comments are taken out of context.

For exmaple, if a gay Priest repents and confesses his sins and turns away from them, then you should forgive them and remember the sin no more.

I find it impossible to believe that the Pope is in any way open to a practising, non-repentant gay serving as a priets.

329 posted on 07/29/2013 12:04:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Just damn...


332 posted on 07/29/2013 12:08:02 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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WHAT THE HELL!!!!

priests take a vow of celibacy !

so the pope is now saying it's ok for men to pack fudge with other men but not with a woman in holy matrimony !???

366 posted on 07/29/2013 1:39:55 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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What an apostate heretic.


370 posted on 07/29/2013 1:47:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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This from the Pope who said follow me on twitter and I’ll reduce your days in the fictional purgatory.

Sounds about right.


371 posted on 07/29/2013 1:56:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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Of course he’s not going to judge them. He reads the Gospel.


377 posted on 07/29/2013 2:26:15 PM PDT by firebrand
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The media lie.

The media misquote.

The media cut and paste disparate statements.

The media misrepresent.

The media twist orthodox comments into the opposite.

The media are anti-American, anti-God.

The media hate conservative Catholics

When are we going to learn to read the original statement in context before we criticize the people on our side?

399 posted on 07/29/2013 3:32:53 PM PDT by daivid
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so this POS Pope won’t criticize these fag priests talking about immoral behavior either?

10 years later..

POPE: “ i will not judge child molesting, animal-humping priests...it’s Un Christian!” BLECCCCCHHHHHHH


433 posted on 07/29/2013 6:51:59 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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He was definitive on not ordaining women as priest. I don't think anyone asked him to judge a gay man. It looks like they asked him, if they should be priest. It's not judging them to ask them not to become priests.

I wish someone would ask him about Pelosi and Biden receiving Communion when they both support abortion.

441 posted on 07/29/2013 7:27:43 PM PDT by FR_addict
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Wow - so this pope ignores clear scripture and supports those who commit blatant sin.

How sad. I thought this pope was a 'by the book' kind of guy. Apparently he wants to make the rules as he goes along, and to hell with what scripture says.

446 posted on 07/29/2013 7:58:41 PM PDT by Ron C.
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it's called discernment, not judgment, and if he can't tell the difference he doesn't need to be Pope.

Homosexuality is a stench in the nostrils of God, the BIBLE says so, and any Priest who isn't celibate doesn't need to be preaching to others about sin.

My 2 cents for what it's worth

448 posted on 07/29/2013 8:24:13 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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here’s a good article from a foxnews catholic priest correspondent. the media got it all wrong, as usual: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/29/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-gays-and-no-it-not-new/?test=latestnews


452 posted on 07/29/2013 9:50:36 PM PDT by FutureRocketMan (Santorum/Perry or Perry/Santorum 2016)
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“The Pope was sleepy and didn’t mean it.”
“The Pope didn’t actually say that.”
“The Pope said that, but meant something else.”
“The Pope said it and meant it but it doesn’t mean what he said.”
“It depends on what the meaning of is, is.”
“The Pope’s not infallible, it’s the Church that is infallible.”
“The Pope is infallible but only sometimes.”
“The Church and the Pope are fallible sometimes, but always right.”
“The Church is more than the Pope, but Protestants are heretics for not accepting the Pope.”
“Nothing is going on here, the media is misrepresenting the Pope.”
“Anyone who is confused by this is a Catholic hater.”
“Catholics don’t have to understand the Pope, just trust the Pope.”
“The Church and the Pope are one, even when they disagree.”
“Being disturbed over this shows lack of faith.”
“Scripture is more than words, so the Pope’s words are irrelevent.”
“The Pope is more than anything he says, so just trust him.”
“Why do you hate Catholics so much?”

Meh.

All of these pathetic excuses, and more, are on this thread. And they are typical of the weasel-words I have heard from Catholics all my life. I know some good Catholics because they are deeply spiritual people. But I walked away from Catholicism because I couldn’t take the bald-faced hypocrisy from “Catholics” who would snarl at me for pointing it out, yet constantly pontificate about right and wrong. And the Church was no help, contradicting itself on so many issues, refusing to admit it and just demanding my faith, and worst of all telling me that it had the authority to tell what I could conclude from what I could think about.

Well it worked on me as a child, but that’s it. “When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.” - 1 Corinthians 13:11

Meh. You want to be a Catholic, then follow the Pope, no matter what he says. That’s Catholicism. The Pope is not your bud, and he’s not some talk show host you can consider at your leisure. He’s literally the rock upon which the Catholic Church is built. Take it or leave it, but at least show some self-respect and stop being such a weasel-worded hypocrite. Pope Benedict felt the same way, and said he’d rather have a much smaller Catholic Church than one fully of weasels. You want to be a Protestant, then for the love of God just be one, and stop twisting around on the fence.

Otherwise, the Pope just told you not to judge homosexuals, and to integrate them into society.

“integrate”
4a : to end the segregation of and bring into equal membership in society or an organization - Websters Dictionary

What does that “mean”? It means, obviously, to drop the negative attitude and start treating homosexuals as equal human beings in your mind and heart and soul - as well as your behavior. Don’t like it? Then find your integrity and become a Protestant. Otherwise, go to confession and ask for help.

But you are not allowed to argue the teaching - period.

THAT’S what having a Pope means.

/rant


457 posted on 07/29/2013 10:41:28 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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