Posted on 07/29/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Homeschooled and private-school students across Ohio now have the right to play on sports teams and participate in other extracurricular activities thanks to a provision in the new state budget.
Previously, each local school board came up with its own policy on the issue.
Athletic and other extracurricular associations have their own rules about student participation in competitive or inter-scholastic activities. This provisions in the state budget override those rules.
Under the new provisions, public schools must allow private-school students to participate in an extracurricular activity only if their private schools do not offer the same activity.
And both homeschooled and private-school students must meet the same age and grade requirements as district students and pay the same fees, if any are required. The Ohio High School Athletic Association isnt thrilled about the changes. The changes go against the principles that help sports contribute to positive educational outcomes, the association says:
Included among these desirable educational outcomes are the instilment [sic] of the notion of citizenship, loyalty and school spirit, the building of a cohesive student body, the promotion of amateurism by drawing athletes from the schools population only which, in turn, discourages an overemphasis on sports, avoids team shopping, keeps in proper perspective the relationships among student-athletes and coaches and secures role models for other students.
The state budget also allows homeschooled students to fully participate in Ohios Post-Secondary Enrollment Options Program. The program allow students to enroll in college courses while in high school for both high-school and college credit. The state pays for the cost of the courses.
The program is already open to private-school students.
If you’re that opposed to public school, why would you want your child representing that school as a football player? Or are you opposed to all aspects of public school unless they have a good football team?
It's not about me; It's about those taxpayers who feel their home-schooled kids are entitled to compete in a sports program at facilities paid for in part by...these same particular taxpayers.
Are you opposed to all aspects of public school unless they have a good football team?
Perhaps you should follow some of the thread in order to understand the context. That said, I have minimal respect for the publik skools system.
Then you should have nothing to do with the public school system, that includes sports, music, science labs, etc. The fact that homeschool parents pay taxes when they homeschool their children means nothing to me as I pay property tax and have no children in my school district. I don’t get to use the school facilities either. My point is that some on this website rail about the iniquity, depravity and the indoctrination of public schools, but if there is something about the school they like all of sudden it’s OK. The school is a den of depravity, but that doesn’t apply to the football team. Sure.
*I* don't use any of the facilities MY taxes subsidize either; but that's besides the point....
Those who pay property taxes and home-school are EN-TITLED to the same facilities.
My point is that some on this website rail about the iniquity, depravity and the indoctrination of public schools, but if there is something about the school they like all of sudden its OK.
Well, your description of a subversive publik skool system is spot on. THE point again: If a taxpayer objects to subversive publik skool policies and agenda and instead must home school, they should be entitled to reject OR use whatever school facilities they find acceptable. If not the case, they should be entitled to at least a 50% taxes break. Isn't that fair?
The school is a den of depravity, but that doesnt apply to the football team. Sure.
That depends on whether "Gay Rights" is taught on the football field, or whether condom-fitting on bananas is instructed at the Goal Line.
Does your tax break apply to me also?
My property taxes would more than cover the amount that it would cost to allow my children to play on a school team. You see I pay into the system but take nothing out of it. So what is your problem with it? It isn’t welfare to use services you pay for. Of course, it would cost more than my property taxes to educate my children in those schools. Right now I pay for a service I don’t use (as do you). IF I signed them up for school sports I would be paying for a service I do use. Of course, I don’t want my children involved in public ed at all but that is beside the point.
Just because someone homeschools, it doesn’t mean they are against public school. It may just mean that it is the best educational choice for their child. I know families with one child in public, one child in private and a couple that are homeschooled and many variations on that theme.
Right on!
Yup. 50%. That way we are still subsidizing our own cultural, national suicide -- but now we're only half responsible :-)
Way to roll up that editorial section of the New York Times and spank that naughty dawg! OUCH!
NO, you are one sick wack a doodle, listen to me........
I pay taxes one kids to go to government schools and I DO NOT USE THE CLASS ROOM so there no reason I should pay .............so if my kids like other kids get to play in sports who the cares but you
Also I wanted to say that it some communities (mine included) sports actually help raise funds for the school not take funds from the school. We are a small community and there isn’t a lot to do here. Sports are big business here.
Good at least you’re consistent. There are many who feel I shouldn’t get a break, only them. Just to set the record straight I’m not opposed to homeschooling but I also do not share the strong opposition to public school either. ( I went to a good public school and I don’t have kids). I would approve of the tax reduction route as opposed to the “cafeteria” plan with the school. If the child isn’t a full-time student of the school they shouldn’t participate in the sports programs, too easy to bring in ringers.
Fair is fair. Single folks should get some kind of tax break.
I also do not share the strong opposition to public school either. ( I went to a good public school and I dont have kids).
I attended public school...but back in that day they were still treaching reading, 'riting, and 'rithmatic. Since the 70s, publik skools have been dumbed-down Indoctrination Centers for social change, socialism, and functional illiterates.
I would approve of the tax reduction route as opposed to the cafeteria plan with the school. If the child isnt a full-time student of the school they shouldnt participate in the sports programs, too easy to bring in ringers.
I understand, but the innocent and legit children of taxpayers shouldn't be penalized because a few "ringers" evade the filter.
Good points all the way around and worthy of consideration. And at least (most of the time) school sports are the one outlet that promotes healthiness, fitness, sportsmanship, morale, and camaraderie without political aspects.
And that is a legitimate concern.
But that can be addressed by requiring the homeschooled student to only play on the team for the district in which they live. So attendance at the school is not mandatory, but it still prevents the schools from recruiting from other districts.
I know how it works. Money is taken from people who don’t have kids or don’t have kids in the system and it’s spent on big sports complexes and programs. Now the homesschoolers want some of the graft at our expense. But you’re good with redistribution of wealth so you like this.
You forgot to get you obama phone while standing in line for the government handout.
Some of us are a little more careful of who we let do favors for us. Others will take any handout they can get from the government, especially if it means being able to pawn their kids off for playtime at some other persons expense.
But, can we agree on this: ALL education should be privatized. And competitive team sports schools should be privatized, too.
Good, now tell the homeschoolers to get out of my pocket instead of adding to the problem.
Looks like I hit a nerve with you. Looks like another one of these good conservatives who pisses and moans about taxes big government intrusion into their lives until it comes to subsidizing their decision to have kids. Then all of a sudden it’s all okay.
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