Posted on 07/30/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by JSDude1
Ok people here's the problem: Property taxes I am sure you agree are un-American! Why should we ~rent~ our own property from the various government entities rather than owning it outright, for all of time for our personal use/posterity!?
So here's the question: what do we need to do to END PROPERTY TAXES? (I know we are a smart bunch, much smarter than the left-so we CAN get this done, somehow..).
It should be kept in mind that real estate transfers are commonly taxed at relatively low rates and exempt from sales taxes, and gains from real estate are commonly taxed at lower capital gains tax rates instead of as ordinary income. If we were to adopt an alternative tax system of some sort to replace property taxes, taxes on real estate transaction and gains would almost certainly be increased.
I'd laugh, but it occurs to me that Feudalism is one of two known solutions to the problem of long-term labor surpluses. I don't put it past the other side to dust it off and give it another try.
One thing that I would like to see done, and it could be implemented quickly, is a lifetime property tax option. Based on mortality tables you could pay your property tax for your future lifetime in one lump-sum amount (or x number of payments) based on a life expectancy formula. This would allow people to be able to retire with having their house paid off AND their taxes paid off for the rest of their life so they would never have to fear losing their home or being unable to afford it later in life.
If you think about it, feudalism is exactly what the elitists want.
They want different rules for them as “nobility” and us as the “peasants”.
Well, I spoke too broadly. But, there are places that HURT property-tax wise, and others that have found mostly other means to pay for services:
If you live in any of these states (% paid of median home value):
New Jersey - 1.89%
New Hampshire - 1.86%
Texas - 1.81%
Wisconsin - 1.76%
Nebraska - 1.70%
Illinois - 1.73%
Connecticut - 1.63%
Michigan - 1.62%
Vermont - 1.59%
North Dakota - 1.42%
then, move to one of these:
Louisiana - 0.18%
Hawaii - 0.26%
Alabama - 0.33%
Delaware - 0.43%
West Virginia - 0.49%
South Carolina - 0.50%
Arkansas - 0.52%
Mississippi - 0.52%
New Mexico - 0.55%
Wyoming - 0.58%
They would certainly like to expand that system to "benefit" all of us.
It seemed to be a state-by-state domino effect thingee.
Looks like there are some locales where you can get a lighter touch from The Heavy Hand...
States use property taxes because, unless in their individual states, there is no prohibition against it. Second, it is a tax against wealth, in the form of real property. Texas used to tax “cash on hand”, “bank stock”, “personal property”(furniture, etc), but because no one declared it and it could not be found, it was ultimately removed from the Tax Code.
The problem is that property is not assessed evenly. For example, residential property under $500K in Texas is apprx 95% on average of value. Above $500K, it drops significantly due to a lack of information. Apartments and office buildings at about 35% of value, same with commercial land (Texas is a non-disclosure state).
Sales taxes would be more equitable as all would pay them depending on their consumption.
Taxing property when it is sold would be a good idea.
Taxing corporate properties that aren’t being used for a decade would help keep companies from buying up land to keep it out of peoples hands.
“...Stealing your property after several years because of unpaid property taxes
is a VERY recent development - within the last several decades...”
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That is just not true.
I have read many historic newspapers from the 1860’s
and the pages are filled with tax sales and auctions at the courthouse.
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Excellent
How much “property tax” is paid via Section 8 housing?
So you’re not only paying your share of the local school costs, but you’re paying the entire share of the freeloaders, who are driving up costs for everyone.
Not sure I buy your premise. The USA had the highest literacy rate in the world BEFORE the government got involved in education, and had maintained that status for many years. There were many privately run schools and church schools that offered educations to those who couldn't afford it, and some of America's most creative minds came out of that system.
I'm talking Andrew Carnige, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, among others.
The property tax is progressive confiscation. They take a small amount every year. They disguise the percentage by calling it a ‘mill rate’. (1,000 mills = $1). 30 ‘mills’ is really 3%. Most people could not tell you that 30 ‘mills’ is really 3%.
marxists hate private property. They can’t grab it all (not yet) so they take a little every year. Assuming all remains constant, at 3% in 33 years they’ll have confiscated the entire house.
How do you do away with the property tax? Get enough people to understand what is happening and contact their representatives.
I have no hope for change. Property is what the productive people have and the obamaphone people don’t have. Current government is doing all it can to take all that people have earned legitimately and give it to the obamaphone people. It’s taking it through income taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes. The obamaphone people are doing very well, without having to work, while the productive people work hard and realize nothing after taxes. The productive people have pride in themselves and would not stop being productive. The obamaphone people have no pride and are going to continue taking the handouts.
When enough of the productive people take their heads out of their a$$es, we’ll have change.
An aside, but the country next to our heavily zoned county has no zoning, and it's interesting to drive around it. It's not totally chaotic nor are their property values abysmal, instead it seems just as well-laid out as our county, leading me to wonder if perhaps the advantages to zoning accrue mostly to those in seats of government power.
You mean before 1642?
"All the New England colonies required towns to set up schools, and many did so. In 1642 the Massachusetts Bay Colony made "proper" education compulsory; other New England colonies followed. Similar statutes were adopted in other colonies in the 1640s and 1650s. The schools were all male, with few facilities for girls.[4] In the 18th century, "common schools," appeared; students of all ages were under the control of one teacher in one room. Although they were publicly supplied at the local (town) level, they were not free, and instead were supported by tuition or "rate bills." - Wikipedia - History of Education in the United States
Stop Endorsing Private Credit
Would you know Oklahoma’s? I’ve heard there property tax was low also.
All of these are ways in which the government causes either an increase in the cost of building and operating housing or a decrease in the existing supply of housing.The people who can least afford the higher costs imposed are, of course, the poor.
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