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BOLO for the "Sleeper FReeper"! (Vanity)
Hard-Won Experience | 8/2/13 | JennysCool

Posted on 08/02/2013 2:26:06 PM PDT by JennysCool

CNN's sudden "discovery" of Benghazi ("Look! There's there there!") has, I've noticed, begun awakening the small but vocal contingent of "Sleeper FReepers" -- who of course are not FReepers at all.

These "sleepers" -- actually liberal Democrat sympathizers -- lie in wait until an event deeply threatens one of their cherished liberal figureheads, quite often Hillary Clinton, and/or when an event comes just a leeeetle too close to disclosing what a nest of incompetent vipers the Democrat "leadership" really is, from Obama on down.

Therefore, especially for new members, here is what to be on the lookout for as the Benghazi story takes on new life ...

The "Concern Troll": This sleeper is the most common, and is the easiest to spot. He or she cares ever-so-deeply about how we might all be getting this wrong, darn it, or might be being led astray. In the instant case of Benghazi, the "Concern Troll" will post things like: "I hope we aren't being taken down the garden path, here! This could be disinformation designed to make us look like fools!" or "As for me, I'm going to give this more time. I don't think we're getting the whole story, and I certainly wouldn't want to assign blame incorrectly!" Boo. And Hoo.

The "Downer": We see them on just about every thread dealing with exposure of some Obama Administration screw-up, and I'm certain some of them are actual FReepers who are just perennial sad sacks in general. But it's quite obvious that many of them are not. You will know them by their extreme pessimism: "This will go nowhere," "Haven't we heard all this before?" "You'll never see this in the mainstream media!" (I've seen that last one quite a bit posted under stories that actually came from the "mainstream media"!) It's discourage at all costs with this bunch.

The "Yeah But-insky": A particularly irritating species, which has many sub-species. The most commonly observed is the "Yeah But-Bush-Did-It-Too-insky." No matter the egregious nature of the Obama scandal, these individuals can be counted upon to argue that this whole thing began under a previous administration (usually George Bush's), as if that exonerates the present bunch warping and shaping the policy to their own devious ends. A closely-related being is the "Yeah But-Everybody-Does-It-insky," who will offer wise counsel like "You think this would have been any different under Romney?" or, "I hate to say it, but Reagan did this kind of thing, too!"

The "Quick! Change the Subject! Subject": A close relative of the "Yeah But-insky," they're usually fairly subtle, but they're everywhere. This individual can be counted upon to attempt to ease the discussion away from liberal Democrat culpability in whatever chicanery they're up to now, by connecting it to some past incident, usually during a Republican administration. Mention Benghazi, and they're likely to regale you with, "This reminds me of how unprepared we were for 9/11. You think we would have learned by now!" or "This calls to mind Iran-Contra. When are we going to finally realize that weapons-dealing is irresponsible, at best? Mercy!"

The "Consider the Source" Source: This person fervently hopes that their calling into question the judgment or conservative credentials of a government official or reporter delivering news bad for the liberals will make it all go away. This Alinsky-like behavior is practiced constantly. If Bill O'Reilly, for example, reports that Ambassador Stevens was killed because he knew too much about a gun-running operation, our intrepid sleeper will harrumph, "Bill O'Reilly? That windbag? I never listen to a word that idiot says!" If Senator So-and-So reports that CIA sources told him Hillary was out dancing with Huma and couldn't be reached during the Benghazi debacle, this counterfeit FReeper will opine, "Senator So-and-So is in it with McCain for Amnesty!" or "Oh, yeah? I heard this dirtbag was pro-choice until he thought he needed the pro-lifers to win the election!"

There are many -- oh, so many -- more types, but you get the idea. Be advised: some of these "Sleeper FReepers" will have long-ago sign-up dates, or a fairly convincing posting history, but don't be fooled. They've studied their "Rules for Radicals," and their Mom's basement, where they just installed the mini-fridge, makes a perfect headquarters for subterfuge!


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Be aware. Be very aware!
1 posted on 08/02/2013 2:26:06 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool

Don’t forget the Zot-Watchers. We - er, I mean they are always watching for trolls and blog-pimps so they can be the 1st with an “IBTZ”

Oh, BTW...

IBTZ.


2 posted on 08/02/2013 2:31:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: JennysCool

But some of us are “OK”....


3 posted on 08/02/2013 2:33:46 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: JennysCool; humblegunner

First of all...”what a nest of incompetent vipers the Democrat ‘leadership’ really is, from Obama on down.”

Beautifully stated! :)

Secondly...Quit leading us down the garden path! *SMIRK*


4 posted on 08/02/2013 2:34:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: JennysCool

I’m not really a troll, I just play one on TV.


5 posted on 08/02/2013 2:34:53 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I love a good zot!


6 posted on 08/02/2013 2:35:29 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JennysCool

Yes...I have noticed these.

I am not even an old-timer, and some of these snide remarks come from people who signed up in 2001 or 2002, which was making me wonder how they could be FReepers for so long and so negative and unlike other FReepers.

I also found myself wondering why, if they had been FReepers since the 20th century, I hadn’t seen their names before this sudden unpleasant comment!

Your Post explains a lot. Thank You.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 2:35:35 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: left that other site

At this point in time, WHAT DOES IT MATTER.


8 posted on 08/02/2013 2:38:58 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oh for the Viking Kitties. I miss them.

and yes, I ind the most prevalent Media Matters hired $15-an-hour troll with his/her talking points in front of him/her is the ‘discouragement’ meme.

As in: ‘It’s over folks. Might as well move to Belize. The Republic is doomed. This isn’t the country I grew up in and never will be gain’ etc. etc.


9 posted on 08/02/2013 2:39:06 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: JennysCool
We see them on just about every thread dealing with exposure of some Obama Administration screw-up, and I'm certain some of them are actual FReepers who are just perennial sad sacks in general.

I've been following political scandals since Watergate - how the media cover them and how the population reacts - and have to say that although I'm not a 'perennial sad sack' its not unreasonable to conclude that it is extremely unlikely that there will ever be a cataclysmic collapse of a democrat administration a political scandal.

Its just the way it is.

But by all means, we should scream our bloody lungs out, because theres always a chance those undecideds might be listening. Just don't expect immediate change.

10 posted on 08/02/2013 2:39:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: JennysCool

Obviously anyone disagreeing with anything on the right side,
no matter how crazy or stupid, is an Obama knee-pad wearing
troll and deserving of the righteous zot.

And they’re getting paid to disrupt too.. don’t leave that out.

Soros signs the checks. Yep.


11 posted on 08/02/2013 2:40:02 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: squarebarb

Sorry, that’s ‘I find...’


12 posted on 08/02/2013 2:40:10 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: humblegunner

Damn! I forgot to include that!

I’ll put it in the next edition, thanks!


13 posted on 08/02/2013 2:43:45 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: squarebarb

That’s OK, I igured it out.


14 posted on 08/02/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

HA! Yes!


15 posted on 08/02/2013 2:44:22 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool; Sleeping Freeper

Looks like Sleeping Freeper is already on the thread.

By the way - it is polite to ping a freeper to a thread where you are going to speak ill of him.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 2:46:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35; Sleeping Freeper
By the way - it is polite to ping a freeper to a thread where you are going to speak ill of him.

I've always heard it was, yes.

Sleeping Freeper is not a "Sleeper FReeper" and is therefore not meant any ill.

17 posted on 08/02/2013 2:49:29 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

A few of us “double agents” will keep an eye on the “Sleepers”....


18 posted on 08/02/2013 2:52:32 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: JennysCool

You nailed them!


19 posted on 08/02/2013 2:55:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JennysCool

You see the same kinds show up during primary seasons, pushing their candidates — and they aren’t all Democrats.

Some of the worst ones who are expert alinskyites have been around for a while. They can sling mud with the best of the LibDems.


20 posted on 08/02/2013 3:06:03 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Danny H

Danny, this thread’s for you.


21 posted on 08/02/2013 3:09:51 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: JennysCool

You left out the “Mean-spirited” Conservative who makes inflamatory statements that fit the “teabagger” narrative of the left by making Freepers look heartless, racist, etc.

Regardless, I think the solution is to simply correct all of these derogatory posts with conservative ideals which I think is happening most of the time.


22 posted on 08/02/2013 3:12:03 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: JennysCool
The "New York Conservative": This sleeper believes they are conservative because they are right of their most extreme liberal friends. They think that makes them special, or unique, in their peer groups. However, they are still very far to the left of center. They believe in abortion, love liberal universities, hate southerners as nothing but drunken rednecks that beat their wives and desire to start slavery all over again, believe in most social programs (welfare), make snarky comments about conservatives but not so much as to get banned, and generally are louses. About the only thing conservative about them is they hate high taxes, but that is greed on their part and has nothing to do with the actual concepts of liberty and freedom.
23 posted on 08/02/2013 3:15:23 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: TomGuy

Like who? Can you name them?


24 posted on 08/02/2013 3:18:44 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 50mm

Hey! Danny took a conservative test at work....he’s a true conservative, ya know!


25 posted on 08/02/2013 3:22:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: JennysCool

I like your ‘guide’

As a side note:

I get so sick of hearing “the Downer”, I hear it a lot when I’m debating with people in person. It seems to be a way of dismissing the conversation and changing the subject to something besides politics.

Also, I have long noticed that when debating in person against liberals whenever you win a point they will counter with the “they all do it” meme. When they say that one you know you’ve convinced them of your point but they want to dismiss it as something that is excusable because they want you to think that your side does it too. That it’s the norm, which is rarely actually true.

Debating liberals is truly casting pearls of wisdom before swine. It’s hopeless because you can never stipulate the truth of anything. They are dealing with their own set of ‘made up’, delusional facts and you can show them on paper where what you are saying is true and they will still deny them. They’re hopelessly brainwashed.


26 posted on 08/02/2013 3:22:44 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: JennysCool
I'm feeling left out. Howzbout the Sleepers who mock everything and anything? Are we b-a-d people too?


27 posted on 08/02/2013 3:23:48 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: JennysCool

There’s some truth in this but do not discount a healthy discussion on WHY such an announcement is made on such and such media outlet (indeed, sometimes a single MSM outlet), and in such a way as to subtly change the dialog. There is the time-proven tactic of getting out in front of a story.

I don’t trust ANY of them as far as I can throw them and when there is something so out of the ordinary, something that screams “hey, this is different,” the skeptic - or perhaps cynic - in me comes to the fore.


28 posted on 08/02/2013 3:30:53 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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To: JennysCool

Anyone who has it out for Gowdy, Cruz, Palin....


29 posted on 08/02/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: JennysCool; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; Velveeta; aragorn; ...
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BOLO for the "Sleeper FReeper"!

Some of these "Sleeper FReepers" will have long-ago sign-up dates, or a fairly convincing posting history, but don't be fooled. They've studied their "Rules for Radicals"

One very long time freeper who posts almost every day went so far as to state they'd never heard of Alinsky.

30 posted on 08/02/2013 3:33:40 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Vegas stays in the Utah data center.)
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To: Daffynition

Har! Okay, you’re included!


31 posted on 08/02/2013 3:37:51 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

I have kin that was a heavy in the W Bush campaigns.
Retired with W and does not say much.
But but among what I have heard is they had many paid and volunteer workers that trolled FR,DU, newspapers...

Pro and anti, they are here!

That is a fact.


32 posted on 08/02/2013 3:39:07 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Bullish

So true! As the old saying goes, “Never try to teach a pig to sing – it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”


33 posted on 08/02/2013 3:39:58 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Daffynition

i walk in the shadow of your badness


34 posted on 08/02/2013 3:40:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: CodeToad

Good addition!


35 posted on 08/02/2013 3:40:45 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: unlearner

Yup! Forgot that one, but you see ‘em quite often!


36 posted on 08/02/2013 3:41:39 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

Good job. Thanks.


37 posted on 08/02/2013 3:42:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: JennysCool
These "sleepers" -- actually liberal Democrat sympathizers --

Care to post a few of their names?

The zots I've witnessed were mainly newbies.......

38 posted on 08/02/2013 3:42:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: JennysCool

bookmark


39 posted on 08/02/2013 3:43:50 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you, sir! That coming from a fine writer like you has officially made my week!

Have a great weekend!


40 posted on 08/02/2013 3:44:35 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Lazamataz

Thank you, Mr. Laz! Have a swell weekend!

Hit it, boys!


41 posted on 08/02/2013 3:46:01 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not naming names here, just issuing the BOLO ...

There’s a bunch, though, they crawl out of their crypts especially around election season.


42 posted on 08/02/2013 3:47:40 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool
The Argument-Starter: This sleeper-troll will start a personal argument with any participant they can, and get as personal as possible, just to steer the topic off the posted topic, and on to a miasma of mudslinging. Always and persistantly offensive, they can change a thread from learned exchanges and good ideas, into a thread covered with meaningless "Yeah but YOU suck" exchanges that add only heat, not light.
43 posted on 08/02/2013 3:48:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: JennysCool
The Hitter: This sleeper-troll will claim that he or she would have sex with absolutely any person who has a picture posted, no matter how repulsive. Some have speculated that they would have sex with a Sears-and-Roebuck 1.5 HP Wet and Dry Vac if given the opportunity, whereas others remark they would sleep with a knotty pine board if one was offered.

Oh wait, on that one... I AM NOT A SLEEPER TROLL!!!

44 posted on 08/02/2013 3:48:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Ohhhh yeah ... That one.

A fine addendum to the list!

By the way, I always enjoy the Laz essays. Keep ‘em comin’!


45 posted on 08/02/2013 3:49:36 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Lazamataz

Har dee har!(Channelling Ralph Kramden).


46 posted on 08/02/2013 3:50:56 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: unlearner; JennysCool
You left out the “Mean-spirited” Conservative who makes inflamatory statements that fit the “teabagger” narrative of the left by making Freepers look heartless, racist, etc. You can call it “Mean-spirited” if you wish, but the crimes of this current bunch cry out for a long, long list of quick, fair trials and fine hangings, drawings and quarterings, burnings at the stakes, and even sternly worded letters.

And I mean that in the nicest, kindest sort of way.

47 posted on 08/02/2013 3:51:07 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Well said! And kindly, too!


48 posted on 08/02/2013 3:52:11 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

I’ll never forget you whipping a new troll a few years back with ‘..well... looks like there’s a new SHERIFF in town!’ and posting a pic of that sheriff from Reno 911.. that was funny. Think about it whenever one of ‘those types’ show up.


49 posted on 08/02/2013 3:53:19 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: JennysCool
By the way, I always enjoy the Laz essays. Keep ‘em comin’!

Got a few in the dock:

OUR SAUDI OVERLORDS

THE JUSTICE ROBERTS BLACKMAIL SCENARIO

WHAT WE FACE IN ELECTION 2014

THE ANTIGUNNER RHETORICAL GUIDE

50 posted on 08/02/2013 3:53:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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