Skip to comments.BOLO for the "Sleeper FReeper"! (Vanity)
Posted on 08/02/2013 2:26:06 PM PDT by JennysCool
CNN's sudden "discovery" of Benghazi ("Look! There's there there!") has, I've noticed, begun awakening the small but vocal contingent of "Sleeper FReepers" -- who of course are not FReepers at all.
These "sleepers" -- actually liberal Democrat sympathizers -- lie in wait until an event deeply threatens one of their cherished liberal figureheads, quite often Hillary Clinton, and/or when an event comes just a leeeetle too close to disclosing what a nest of incompetent vipers the Democrat "leadership" really is, from Obama on down.
Therefore, especially for new members, here is what to be on the lookout for as the Benghazi story takes on new life ...
The "Concern Troll": This sleeper is the most common, and is the easiest to spot. He or she cares ever-so-deeply about how we might all be getting this wrong, darn it, or might be being led astray. In the instant case of Benghazi, the "Concern Troll" will post things like: "I hope we aren't being taken down the garden path, here! This could be disinformation designed to make us look like fools!" or "As for me, I'm going to give this more time. I don't think we're getting the whole story, and I certainly wouldn't want to assign blame incorrectly!" Boo. And Hoo.
The "Downer": We see them on just about every thread dealing with exposure of some Obama Administration screw-up, and I'm certain some of them are actual FReepers who are just perennial sad sacks in general. But it's quite obvious that many of them are not. You will know them by their extreme pessimism: "This will go nowhere," "Haven't we heard all this before?" "You'll never see this in the mainstream media!" (I've seen that last one quite a bit posted under stories that actually came from the "mainstream media"!) It's discourage at all costs with this bunch.
The "Yeah But-insky": A particularly irritating species, which has many sub-species. The most commonly observed is the "Yeah But-Bush-Did-It-Too-insky." No matter the egregious nature of the Obama scandal, these individuals can be counted upon to argue that this whole thing began under a previous administration (usually George Bush's), as if that exonerates the present bunch warping and shaping the policy to their own devious ends. A closely-related being is the "Yeah But-Everybody-Does-It-insky," who will offer wise counsel like "You think this would have been any different under Romney?" or, "I hate to say it, but Reagan did this kind of thing, too!"
The "Quick! Change the Subject! Subject": A close relative of the "Yeah But-insky," they're usually fairly subtle, but they're everywhere. This individual can be counted upon to attempt to ease the discussion away from liberal Democrat culpability in whatever chicanery they're up to now, by connecting it to some past incident, usually during a Republican administration. Mention Benghazi, and they're likely to regale you with, "This reminds me of how unprepared we were for 9/11. You think we would have learned by now!" or "This calls to mind Iran-Contra. When are we going to finally realize that weapons-dealing is irresponsible, at best? Mercy!"
The "Consider the Source" Source: This person fervently hopes that their calling into question the judgment or conservative credentials of a government official or reporter delivering news bad for the liberals will make it all go away. This Alinsky-like behavior is practiced constantly. If Bill O'Reilly, for example, reports that Ambassador Stevens was killed because he knew too much about a gun-running operation, our intrepid sleeper will harrumph, "Bill O'Reilly? That windbag? I never listen to a word that idiot says!" If Senator So-and-So reports that CIA sources told him Hillary was out dancing with Huma and couldn't be reached during the Benghazi debacle, this counterfeit FReeper will opine, "Senator So-and-So is in it with McCain for Amnesty!" or "Oh, yeah? I heard this dirtbag was pro-choice until he thought he needed the pro-lifers to win the election!"
There are many -- oh, so many -- more types, but you get the idea. Be advised: some of these "Sleeper FReepers" will have long-ago sign-up dates, or a fairly convincing posting history, but don't be fooled. They've studied their "Rules for Radicals," and their Mom's basement, where they just installed the mini-fridge, makes a perfect headquarters for subterfuge!
Don’t forget the Zot-Watchers. We - er, I mean they are always watching for trolls and blog-pimps so they can be the 1st with an “IBTZ”
But some of us are “OK”....
First of all...”what a nest of incompetent vipers the Democrat ‘leadership’ really is, from Obama on down.”
Beautifully stated! :)
Secondly...Quit leading us down the garden path! *SMIRK*
I’m not really a troll, I just play one on TV.
I love a good zot!
Yes...I have noticed these.
I am not even an old-timer, and some of these snide remarks come from people who signed up in 2001 or 2002, which was making me wonder how they could be FReepers for so long and so negative and unlike other FReepers.
I also found myself wondering why, if they had been FReepers since the 20th century, I hadn’t seen their names before this sudden unpleasant comment!
Your Post explains a lot. Thank You.
At this point in time, WHAT DOES IT MATTER.
Oh for the Viking Kitties. I miss them.
and yes, I ind the most prevalent Media Matters hired $15-an-hour troll with his/her talking points in front of him/her is the ‘discouragement’ meme.
As in: ‘It’s over folks. Might as well move to Belize. The Republic is doomed. This isn’t the country I grew up in and never will be gain’ etc. etc.
I've been following political scandals since Watergate - how the media cover them and how the population reacts - and have to say that although I'm not a 'perennial sad sack' its not unreasonable to conclude that it is extremely unlikely that there will ever be a cataclysmic collapse of a democrat administration a political scandal.
Its just the way it is.
But by all means, we should scream our bloody lungs out, because theres always a chance those undecideds might be listening. Just don't expect immediate change.
Obviously anyone disagreeing with anything on the right side,
no matter how crazy or stupid, is an Obama knee-pad wearing
troll and deserving of the righteous zot.
And they’re getting paid to disrupt too.. don’t leave that out.
Soros signs the checks. Yep.
Sorry, that’s ‘I find...’
Damn! I forgot to include that!
I’ll put it in the next edition, thanks!
That’s OK, I igured it out.
Looks like Sleeping Freeper is already on the thread.
By the way - it is polite to ping a freeper to a thread where you are going to speak ill of him.
I've always heard it was, yes.
Sleeping Freeper is not a "Sleeper FReeper" and is therefore not meant any ill.
A few of us “double agents” will keep an eye on the “Sleepers”....
You nailed them!
You see the same kinds show up during primary seasons, pushing their candidates — and they aren’t all Democrats.
Some of the worst ones who are expert alinskyites have been around for a while. They can sling mud with the best of the LibDems.
Danny, this thread’s for you.
You left out the “Mean-spirited” Conservative who makes inflamatory statements that fit the “teabagger” narrative of the left by making Freepers look heartless, racist, etc.
Regardless, I think the solution is to simply correct all of these derogatory posts with conservative ideals which I think is happening most of the time.
Like who? Can you name them?
Hey! Danny took a conservative test at work....he’s a true conservative, ya know!
I like your ‘guide’
As a side note:
I get so sick of hearing “the Downer”, I hear it a lot when I’m debating with people in person. It seems to be a way of dismissing the conversation and changing the subject to something besides politics.
Also, I have long noticed that when debating in person against liberals whenever you win a point they will counter with the “they all do it” meme. When they say that one you know you’ve convinced them of your point but they want to dismiss it as something that is excusable because they want you to think that your side does it too. That it’s the norm, which is rarely actually true.
Debating liberals is truly casting pearls of wisdom before swine. It’s hopeless because you can never stipulate the truth of anything. They are dealing with their own set of ‘made up’, delusional facts and you can show them on paper where what you are saying is true and they will still deny them. They’re hopelessly brainwashed.
There’s some truth in this but do not discount a healthy discussion on WHY such an announcement is made on such and such media outlet (indeed, sometimes a single MSM outlet), and in such a way as to subtly change the dialog. There is the time-proven tactic of getting out in front of a story.
I don’t trust ANY of them as far as I can throw them and when there is something so out of the ordinary, something that screams “hey, this is different,” the skeptic - or perhaps cynic - in me comes to the fore.
Anyone who has it out for Gowdy, Cruz, Palin....
BOLO for the "Sleeper FReeper"!
Some of these "Sleeper FReepers" will have long-ago sign-up dates, or a fairly convincing posting history, but don't be fooled. They've studied their "Rules for Radicals"
One very long time freeper who posts almost every day went so far as to state they'd never heard of Alinsky.
Har! Okay, you’re included!
I have kin that was a heavy in the W Bush campaigns.
Retired with W and does not say much.
But but among what I have heard is they had many paid and volunteer workers that trolled FR,DU, newspapers...
Pro and anti, they are here!
That is a fact.
So true! As the old saying goes, Never try to teach a pig to sing it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
i walk in the shadow of your badness
Yup! Forgot that one, but you see ‘em quite often!
Good job. Thanks.
Care to post a few of their names?
The zots I've witnessed were mainly newbies.......
Thank you, sir! That coming from a fine writer like you has officially made my week!
Have a great weekend!
Thank you, Mr. Laz! Have a swell weekend!
Hit it, boys!
Not naming names here, just issuing the BOLO ...
There’s a bunch, though, they crawl out of their crypts especially around election season.
Oh wait, on that one... I AM NOT A SLEEPER TROLL!!!
Ohhhh yeah ... That one.
A fine addendum to the list!
By the way, I always enjoy the Laz essays. Keep ‘em comin’!
Har dee har!(Channelling Ralph Kramden).
And I mean that in the nicest, kindest sort of way.
Well said! And kindly, too!
I’ll never forget you whipping a new troll a few years back with ‘..well... looks like there’s a new SHERIFF in town!’ and posting a pic of that sheriff from Reno 911.. that was funny. Think about it whenever one of ‘those types’ show up.
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