Posted on 08/12/2013 9:08:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There are no polls showing Ted Cruz leading the 2016 Republican presidential field in the Iowa. A PPP survey last month found Cruz in sixth place in the state, behind Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio. But after a particularly well-received appearance at a conservative event in Ames, Iowa over the weekend, there seems little doubt that Cruz, who has been in the U.S. Senate all of eight months, is zooming toward the front of the GOP pack in the nation’s first-voting state.
The gathering, sponsored by the social conservative organization Family Leader, featured appearances by Rick Santorum, winner of the 2012 Republican caucuses, and Cruz, along with billionaire gadfly Donald Trump. From all accounts, Santorum was a popular speaker; the social conservative crowd appreciated not only his positions but the enormous effort he has made to get to know the state of Iowa and its conservative residents.
But Santorum’s welcome could not compare to the wildly enthusiastic reception for Cruz. Joined by his pastor father, Rafael Cruz — he was a big hit, too — the Texas freshman senator wowed the crowd, and then wowed them again.
“The reception for Santorum was appreciative, consistent, and steady,” Bob Vander Plaats, head of the Family Leader and organizer of the event, told me via email. “The anticipation for and reception of Cruz was over the top. He was propelled by an amazing speech by his father, Rafael. All that said, Cruz delivered. Most walked away talking Cruz!”
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You’re smokin’ somethin, right?
Not sure who wrote what here, but forget “CITIZEN”. It’s “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. It is NOT a different kind of citizenship! It is a SPECIFIC requirement to be president. Oh, how I wish they had called it something else.
The FFs, because the president is the “Command in Chief”, his loyalty was to be without question. They didn’t want the one man in charge of the Army of the United States to have loyalties to foreign countries. Read the John Jay letter to George Washington on the subject.
Just look at Obama. No real ties to the U.S. He is more closely connected to Muslim countries and Communism than he is to Christianity and Democracy. He grew up in foreign countries and then a state that had only been a state a few years. Is Obama American? No he is not, no matter where he was born. He should be ineligible just because of his father’s lack of U.S. citizenship. Cruz has the same problem. Cruz has the added NO QUESTION disqualifier of undeniably born in a foreign country.
The problem here is the ignorance of the American people, some of which are convinced of their specious arguments. ANY logical person who examines the facts can come to no other conclusion than that you have to be born in the United States by 2 citizen parents. That your eligibility to be a president of the United States is determined at the moment of your birth. Were you born on U.S. soil? Were BOTH your parents U.S. citizens at that time? PERIOD!
Now, U.S. soil must be defined. To be unquestionable, it would have to be one of the 48 contiguous states & the District of Columbia. Questions could still arise about Alaska & Hawaii if the candidate were old enough because of the recent nature of them becoming states. Territories and possessions are a crapshoot. Many different laws apply to these and citizens of these places are generally “citizens by statute”, “not citizens by birth”. A “Natural Born Citizen” has to be a “citizens by birth”.
Site all your court cases (most don’t apply) and spew all your venom. The Constitution of the United States is the SUPREME law of the land. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 was written into the constitution for the reason described above and has not been amended other than to ADD the same requirement for the Vice President. (12th amendment, last sentence)
I think you have me confused with someone else.
The only people who are natural born citizens are those born in country to citizen parents at the time of their birth.
If you disagree with that, then we disagree.
No venom. Sorry to disappoint.
Not understanding you. By this you mean?
sorry not personal, just using the occasion of your post. I thought you were quoting then responding. Wasn’t sure since it seemed there was opposing views in the same post. Anyway, we agree my brother.
If citizenship comes from place, then Cruz is Canadian.
If citizenship comes from his Father, then Cruz is Cuban.
If citizenship comes from his Mother, then Cruz is American.
Based upon his birth, depending upon what you or your nation believes, you can claim Ted Cruz's citizenship by birth is Canadian, Cuban or American.
To be an American and nothing else, based upon the circumstances of birth, you must be born in America, to an American Father and an American mother.
That is the only way everyone and every nation agrees that child is an American and nothing else.
That is the practical definition of what the FFs called "Natural Born Citizen" in the POTUS eligibility.
No treaty or laws needed or required to make it so. It just is.
That's not Ted Cruz
And, that's not obama, either, not unless his official obamabio story is a lie.
We are quick to throw everything away to win a popularity contest and waste our best opportunity for a true Leader in the Senate.
I guess we won't be keeping this Republic after all, Mr. Franklin.
generic you, impersonal you or indefinite you, not “you” (GBA)
Well: That makes one of you.
We will see what happens.
The deal with Cruz is that he was born in Canada of an Cuban father, who might or might not have been friends of Castro, and a USA citizen mother. I am not one who sees Cruz as a USA ‘natural born citizen’ much to my regrets. If a Canadian birth is O.K. then I have to accept with all reluctance that the two sons of the Muslim Egyptian ex President Morsi are also eligible because they were actually born in the USA. I believe the Founding Fathers were very concerned with loyalties, and especially of such as a co-joined religious and government as Islam. If the USA today must depend upon one person for POTUSA as to ability/qualifications we certainly will have a struggle to get back to our Constitutional roots.
You're making this stuff up as you go, right?
Citizenship comes from your mother, but not from place or from your father? Just from mom?
That's your final answer?
Which nations in world, past or present, have used this matriarchal standard?
Is this just true for our modern world where illegitimate children and/or single parent, mom run households are common or has this always been the case?
What if dear ol' dad says otherwise? Whose lawyer gets to decide? What if the birth country says otherwise?
(Do you see your mistake yet? Only one form of citizenship avoids all of these arguments, which is why it was chosen.)
Whether he runs or not will pretty much answer that question.
Not voting for the most conservative member of both the entire senate or the house? That says a lot about you.
So much for that argument......
With Obama now there have been seven presidents with at least one foreign-born parent. It has been 76 years since the last: Herbert Hoover had a Canadian-born mother. Woodrow Wilson's mother was English. Chester Arthur and James Buchanan both had Irish fathers. Thomas Jefferson's mother was born in England, and Andrew Jackson's parents were both born in Ireland.
“There is no way Cruz can be turned down without opening the Pandora’s box on Obama.”
The GOP has the capacity to show otherwise.
There are $$millions in book pages, webpages, speaking fees.
There are Orly and Joseph and Jerome to start their plots.
Your parents can be born anywhere, as long as they are American citizens when you are born.
In other words, what is your inheritance; what can be passed along to you?
If your parents are Americans, they presumably then pass on what they have claim to, which would be their (American) citizenship at the time of your birth.
Man, I don’t think we got even 3 posts!
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