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(Israeli politician Yossi) Beilin: The Egyptian Army Rigged the Election
INN ^ | 8/19/2013, 2:14 AM | Elad Benari

Posted on 08/18/2013 6:45:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Former minister Yossi Beilin revealed in a column published in the Israel Hayom daily on Sunday that the Egyptian army rigged the results of last year’s presidential elections, in which Islamist Mohammed Morsi was declared the winner. …

The source who asked to remain anonymous told Beilin that former president Hosni Mubarak’s last prime minister, Ahmed Shafiq, won the race “by a narrow margin. But the army generals—wanting to ensure that law and order would be upheld following the elections—feared that if Morsi was defeated, the Muslim Brotherhood would refuse to recognize the results and would end up conducting themselves just as they are now.”

“The official results, 51.73% for Morsi and 48.27% for Shafiq, were almost the exact reversal of what actually happened at the polls,” wrote Beilin. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmedshafiq; egypt; egyptmilitary; electionrigging; israel; russia; waronterror; yossibeilin
Beilin is a liberal from Israel’s Labor Party. I don’t know what he wants to achieve by publishing this.
1 posted on 08/18/2013 6:45:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Soooo...The Egyptian army rigged the elections FOR Morsi, then arranged a political coup against him?


This must be some of that "above my pay grade" thinking. Or, more likely, this guy is blowing smoke.
2 posted on 08/18/2013 6:48:23 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: arderkrag

no it makes sense the people got to see how much fun rule under the MB would be and they got sick of it pretty quick


3 posted on 08/18/2013 6:50:50 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: bigheadfred
Ah, yes, get him into office so they see how much he sucks. BRILLIANT! /sarc

Although it explains how Obama got into office twice.
4 posted on 08/18/2013 6:52:46 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: arderkrag
Most likely, he is full of it. There is some logic in it, though. Had the MB candidate lost, they would cry foul and likely get a boost from the MSM and WH....though their silence was deafening in the obvious fraud of Iran's re-election of Ahmadinejad.

Nevertheless, the "win" (or not) by Morsi put them in power and showed everyone the true face of the MB. They're feckless, power-hungry ideologues who cannot find their asses with both hands and a map, but excel in turmoil.

5 posted on 08/18/2013 6:53:55 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: arderkrag

> Ah, yes, get him into office so they see how much he sucks. BRILLIANT! /sarc

Although it explains how Obama got into office twice.

0 probably trained them on how to rig it.


6 posted on 08/18/2013 6:56:21 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: arderkrag

if they are so brilliant why are they moslems and they are the military they can take him out at any time so why not mubarak was supported by the military or he wouldnt have lasted as long as he did


7 posted on 08/18/2013 6:57:34 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: jsanders2001

Good point!


8 posted on 08/18/2013 6:58:41 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Olog-hai

to give stalin a smile in hades.


9 posted on 08/18/2013 7:00:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.

[snip] “The official results, 51.73% for Morsi and 48.27% for Shafiq, were almost the exact reversal of what actually happened at the polls,” wrote Beilin. [/snip]

‘Egypt gov’t sources: Shafik to be named president’ (Muslim Brotherhood loses!!!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898573/posts

Egypt’s high court keeps Shafiq in race, suggests partial disbandment of parliament
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2895211/posts


10 posted on 08/18/2013 7:07:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: gleeaikin
just a return ping for the pings your having sent me gleeaikin.
11 posted on 08/18/2013 7:10:48 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai

I was for Mubarak from way back because an Egyptian told me he wasn’t that bad. This is what we get with the media pushing the Arab Spring and it was on some mainstream boards as well. These things almost always turn out badly,


12 posted on 08/18/2013 7:13:21 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: arderkrag

Oh I don’t know. Freepers say Morsi cheated but aren’t bothering to explain how he did it with the military keeping it honest.

I think the place is a mess and we need to stay as far away from it as possible.


13 posted on 08/18/2013 7:23:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree creek. Too bad our elected see it as their fight and ours. If we have to go back, am against a half way method. All or nothing but our elected want a means to line their pockets at the People’s expense (imho).


14 posted on 08/18/2013 7:26:54 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cripplecreek

“The place is a mess..we need to stay away.”

I agree. I can’t for the life of me tell who the”good guys” are. And, sadly I don’t think our government can either.


15 posted on 08/18/2013 7:29:39 PM PDT by berdie
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To: no-to-illegals

Not once have we been involved with a muslim country where one side was dirty and the other side was clean.

My only concern is for the Christians and I’m confused about why the Egyptian military has suddenly lost the ability to protect them.

My gut just tells me that there is something very wrong here.


16 posted on 08/18/2013 7:36:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
My gut just tells me that there is something very wrong here.

Walking the same path creek, ever since 911.

17 posted on 08/18/2013 7:38:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

there’s something happinin here
what it is aint exactly clear
theres a man with a gun over there
tellin me i got to beware


18 posted on 08/18/2013 7:44:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Amen creek ... Amen.

Am also reminded of Ohio and Benghazi, in the similarities of it all.

19 posted on 08/18/2013 7:49:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai

When Yossi Beilin says something on domestic politics you don’t believe a word he says. Why he is getting involved in foreign matters I don’t know. This is like asking Al Sharpton what happened at the Zimmerman trial.


20 posted on 08/18/2013 7:52:00 PM PDT by idov
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To: Olog-hai; arderkrag; bigheadfred; edpc; jsanders2001; RushIsMyTeddyBear; no-to-illegals; ...
NB: Beilin is not the first to write about this. However, the initial rumour did not point to the Egyptian army as the prime mover, but......you'll be so surprised.....the Obama administration:

The essay Everything You Wanted to Know About the Egypt Problem that the Media or Politicians Won’t Tell You by Michael Youssef was posted here on FR 14 July.

People who can do simple math will discover that less than 15 percent of the population voted “yes” on that referendum. But that’s not the entire story.

According to documents discovered after the recent June 30th Revolution, Morsi actually lost the election by more than 200,000 votes. But the American ambassador in Cairo, Anne Patterson, who was carrying the wishes of her bosses in Washington, pressured the military counsel (English Translation) to declare Morsi the winner. The reason? To avoid bloodshed.

The original source is the Egyptian analyst and writer Tarek Haggy. A year previously (June 2, 2012) Haggy wrote an essay where he was somewhat more careful (but that was of course prior to the coup):

Egypt: What Happened?

Although there were rumors that Ahmed Shafeeq won more votes, the SCAF chose to announce Morsy's victory, probably to avoid consequences similar to what happened in Algeria slightly more than 20 years ago, when a civil war broke out after the Algerian president cancelled the results of the parliamentary elections when they seemed to be overwhelmingly in favour of the Islamists. It is rumored that in case Ahmed Shafeeq were to be announced as victorious, a violence would have exploded all over Egypt.

In the recent article Michael Youssof quotes a piece by Haggy. It is not a direct translation and the original is probably written in Arabic, so I cannot find it - in other words take it with a pinch of salt until the purported original author stands by it. However, I have posted word document below this post. It contains a few interesting points.

21 posted on 08/19/2013 1:33:13 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Tarek Haggy: Anne Patterson confessed to me that she knew Shafiq was the winner in the Egyptian presidential elections and that she was behind picking Mursi as president!

Tarek Haggy, a strategic thinker and analyst, expressed his hopes that the recent developments in Egypt would turn to be the way everyone who loves to see a civilian Egypt wants. May the stinking, dark nightmare that was in power for a year disappear. This was the first comment from Tarek Haggy on the fall of the Muslim Brotherhood by a huge revolution protected by the Egyptian army.

In his explanation of the situation after the presidential election back in July 2012, "Haggy" revealed a shocking secret. "In a meeting back then with the second man in the American Embassy in Cairo in which Ambassador Anne Patterson was present, she surprised everyone by saying that she already knew that Ahmed Shafiq got votes more than Mursi, but she and President Obama’s administration chose to declare Mursi the winner to avoid bloodshed in Egypt because the Muslim Brotherhood will not accept but a president from among their group!

"A month ago I sent this information to all the congress members.” Haggy continued. “Now I am urging the republicans to hold a hearing under the oath in which I can come to confront the ambassador and her deputy so the world would know that Mursi was never a legitimate president to Egypt."

Haggy concluded by saying, "Once again, I hope the developments of events would allow me to congratulate you for the vanishing of the nightmare, meaning the Muslim Brotherhood, which represented by a handful of criminals who ruled Egypt for 365 days. Egypt was insulted by a ruler called Mursi; an insult which is the biggest in its recent history."

22 posted on 08/19/2013 1:35:10 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
The statement of Tarek Haggy was originally posted on this Egyptian web site:

http://egyptavatar.com/index_news.aspx?nid=10225#.UhHgoRyYV1b

The translation (bing.com/translator) appears to be correct, though Mr Heggy is still only quoted in second hand - not his original writing.

23 posted on 08/19/2013 2:19:48 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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