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US study finds link between gun ownership and homicide
AFP News ^ | September 13, 2013

Posted on 09/12/2013 7:36:42 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Researchers in the United States claim to have established a convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide, according to a new study.

The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health, challenges the National Rifle Association's claim that increased gun ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.

In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable -- the percentage of a state's suicides committed with a firearm -- that has been validated in previous research.

The study, led by Boston University community health sciences professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December 2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

"In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown ... many states are considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths," said Siegel in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ajph; banglist; guncontrol; liberalagenda; msm; nra; secondamendment
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1 posted on 09/12/2013 7:36:42 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Any correlation between legal gun ownership and homicide?
2 posted on 09/12/2013 7:38:57 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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One has t5o remember who’s side the media is on....and take a grain of salt.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 7:39:57 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable -- the percentage of a state's suicides committed with a firearm -- that has been validated in previous research.

Metadata.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Most scientific papers are probably wrong

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

4 posted on 09/12/2013 7:40:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable — the percentage of a state’s suicides committed with a firearm — that has been validated in previous research

Huh ???

Did they just say they made this up and say their method has been used before and then not show where their method was used before?


5 posted on 09/12/2013 7:40:24 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
"US study finds link between
gun ownership and homicide"


6 posted on 09/12/2013 7:40:26 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: muir_redwoods

Oh baloney.

There is no correlation between the ownership of firearms, and anything.

Except maybe, a LOWER violence rate.

This is total bunk.


7 posted on 09/12/2013 7:41:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The murderous thugs in Chicago are homicidal “gun owners”.

They just don’t own the guns LEGALLY!!!!


8 posted on 09/12/2013 7:41:23 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Gun owner -> more likely to use gun for personal defense -> more justified homicides.

The link is right there.

9 posted on 09/12/2013 7:41:42 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All of the guns that I once owned (tragic boating accident) never shot, let alone, killed any human being.


10 posted on 09/12/2013 7:42:04 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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I’ve known 8 people who have done themselves in. Not a single one was firearm related.

Using my statistics, the overwhelming evidence is that we should ban garage doors


11 posted on 09/12/2013 7:42:19 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Who paid for the study?

Always follow the money trail.

12 posted on 09/12/2013 7:43:36 PM PDT by TYVets
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“The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,”

Sounds like some Obamacare-affiliated communist rag. I’ll stick with John Lott when it comes to guns. I doubt these nerds ever fired one.


13 posted on 09/12/2013 7:44:39 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Low Information Voter news flash: 100% of gun-violence murders were committed by someone in possession of a firearm.


14 posted on 09/12/2013 7:45:06 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They had to torture those numbers quite a bit to get the answer they wanted.

15 posted on 09/12/2013 7:45:12 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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...challenges the National Rifle Association's claim that increased gun ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.

A real variable would be comparing legal gun ownership as opposed to illegally owned guns. Me thinks that variable was intentionally left out to skew the data.

In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable -- the percentage of a state's suicides committed with a firearm -- that has been validated in previous research.

Another meaningless statistic (that they probably inserted to make the data match their pre-conceived ideas) without examining whether the suicides would or would not have used some other means to off themselves if a gun was not available.
It would take a lot to convince me that most gun suicides would still be alive today if they had not had access to a gun. Besides, didn't I read somewhere that accidental gun deaths are included in these statistics?

16 posted on 09/12/2013 7:45:41 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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So what?

The people’s rights under the constitution shall not be infringed.

Study that a$$hats.

17 posted on 09/12/2013 7:46:48 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable -- the percentage of a state's suicides committed with a firearm -- that has been validated in previous research.

I guess these guys studied under Mann.

Then they note: The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in 2010.

So if firearm ownership has increased but firearm homicide has decreased how can they reach their conclusion: ... it determined that for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.

???

Manure.

18 posted on 09/12/2013 7:47:29 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Here's the problem with the alleged correlation between firearm ownership and suicide, homicide, or violent crime with a firearm:

People at risk for suicide, homicide, or violent crime are more likely to buy a firearm, because they anticipate they will need it.

It's like getting a driver's license, because you are planning to buy a car.

19 posted on 09/12/2013 7:47:38 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It does not look like what the headline advertised at all.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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