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If Lies Dont Work, Try Force to Shut Them Up: Our Duty to Civil Disobedience
Townhall.com ^ | September 23, 2013 | John Ransom

Posted on 09/23/2013 4:44:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

For all those “conservatives” who support Common Core education reform, congratulations: Your side is acting like typical liberals.

You’re lying about Common Core and when that doesn’t work, you and your liberal allies are willing to use naked force.

Whatever else Common Core is about, it’s not an attempt to implement “standards.”

At least in one case, it’s a wholesale rewriting American history, the constitution and common sense. And in another recent case, it’s about the ability to belittle, harass, and arrest the parents who just won’t shut the hell up.

We told you so.

“Greenville County Schools is alerting its teachers who use a U.S. history textbook called ‘The Americans’ that a description of the Second Amendment it gives is inaccurate, a district spokesman said late Thursday,” reported Greenville Online.

“The high school text ‘states that citizens have the right to bear arms as members of a militia of citizen-soldiers,’ spokesman Oby Lyles said. ‘This is not accurate.’”

Yeah, no duh.

The story was first reported by the Blaze, and the district, to their credit, notified other members of the media.

Of course, the county school district quickly figured out that the text was incorrect.

Not so the United States Department of Education.

They’re convening a “review” of the text. Perhaps they need some time to issue paid leaves, hide mid-level officials who rewrote the constitution, and otherwise cover their tracks.

Education is now going to be the process of fact checking, reviewing, and then finding no one responsible for the revisions to American history.

I have not had a chance to see the textbook, but I’m guessing that any group that rewrote a little thing like the 2nd Amendment probably got a few more things wrong too.

And guess what? While the Grenville County School District has been stand-up about the concerns regarding the new Common Core text, some school districts haven’t been as forthright about answering questions.

Take Baltimore for example.

Baltimore County Public Schools superintendent Dallas Dance announced the he’d be holding a series of five meetings around the district to answers parents’ concerns about education, including Common Core.

So parents, understandably, thought that meant that Dance would actually ANSWER questions about their concerns.

Instead, parents submitted written questions, which were edited into softball questions so the superintendent could waste parents time with a dog and pony show. This annoyed at least one parent who showed up, on his time off from work, to express his concerns about Common Core standards not adequately preparing students for four-year colleges.

He spoke-up.

The result was that he got arrested and charged with second-degree assault on a police officer.

An assault that didn’t happen according to the video taken by a local parent.

Parent Arrested from Common Core Meeting in Baltimore County MD

From WBAL Baltimore:

In the video, 46-year-old Robert Small is seen trying to ask a question to Baltimore County Public Schools Superintendent S. Dallas Dance, and Maryland Schools Superintendent Dr. Lillian Lowery. The video shows an off duty Baltimore County Police officer shoving Small and escorting him out of the room as he tries to shout a question.

Before taking Small out of the room, the officer instructs the man to lower his voice, but he did continue shouting. The officer said he intervened at the request of Dance's chief of staff Michelle Prumo who was in the room where the meeting was taking place.

The video does not appear to show Small hitting the officer, though in the arrest report, police allege Small did shove the officer during the exchange.

If what Small did is illegal, then anything that doesn't comply with grasping government is illegal.

At this rate, Common Core supporters won’t just lose an argument.

They’ll lose the middle.

Proponents of Common Core ought to think through the implications of needing to lie to parents and use force against them as an alternative to answering their simple, justifiable and common concerns.

Average Americans are tired of being lied to and marginalized for our own good.

History has not been kind to the tyrants who have tried it.

Civil disobedience today isn’t just a right given to us by our Creator, but a duty for those who wish to re-establish a government of laws, not men.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; civildisobedience; common; commoncore; doe; education; guncontrol; schoolboardmeeting; secondamendment; stopcommoncore; towson; tyranny

1 posted on 09/23/2013 4:44:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Bill of Rights has ben replaced with a new and improved version by the Government. It now just consists of 1 right, instead of those pesky 10. Here is the wording of the new version in full:

1. Shut up, slave!


2 posted on 09/23/2013 4:49:16 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Kaslin

Common Core is more of the “fundamentally change the United States of America”

This is so sinister that it threatens us by corrupting our children


3 posted on 09/23/2013 4:49:19 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Kaslin
It's a downhill coast and the track is greased, all the way to the gates of tyranny.


4 posted on 09/23/2013 4:50:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Never expect a fair hearing at any Government meeting.

When they hold a hearing on anything their decision has already been made and you are just a part of the performance .


5 posted on 09/23/2013 5:17:07 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Kaslin

i spoke out for common core, until i did a little more research into it..

my bitch was allowing teachers to take individual liberties in the classroom versus teaching to a standard..

it would appear the standards being used are pro communist and anti constitution..

i hereby officially and in person accept that common core is for crap, and apologize to those i may have offended in my uninformed support of this crap...


6 posted on 09/23/2013 5:19:13 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
This is so sinister that it threatens us by corrupting our children

Not if you home school your children or enroll them in a conservative private school.

7 posted on 09/23/2013 5:33:17 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Kaslin

The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal/anti-truth collective/socialist/propagandist/communist.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 5:34:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Venturer

It is inevitable that the left uses force as their power progresses. Ayn Rand predicted it. And that level of force they sling at any opposition is directly in proportion to the amount of power they have.

The end result is the USSR. YouTube “The Chekist” , or another excellent, but depressing Russian movie “The Admiral”.


9 posted on 09/23/2013 5:42:23 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Kaslin

Glen Beck talked about this man (and aired the audio of what happened) at the starting of his radio show this morning.


10 posted on 09/23/2013 6:18:18 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: Wildbill22
It is inevitable that the left uses force as their power progresses. Ayn Rand predicted it. And that level of force they sling at any opposition is directly in proportion to the amount of power they have.

You've got that right, Wildbill22. Those whom Marxists can't persuade, they silence. Those they can't silence, they kill.

Since 1917, the measure of Marxist dictators has been mass murders. Thus far, Mao Tse Tung is in the lead.

11 posted on 09/23/2013 6:20:42 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: joe fonebone; Former MSM Viewer; Kaslin; upchuck; july4thfreedomfoundation; Wildbill22; PGalt

It is more than just communist - and for those who think they can escape with homeschool remember what Holder did to the German family who wanted to homeschool (deportation).

RE: common core:
Many people are not aware that the new common core curriculum (national) utilizes ipad technology for the kids. (see link below) and the link between technology and converting to Islam and the caliphate (last 2 links).

See this link for the complete comment on how they will collect data while taking tests on ipads
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3068427/posts?page=21#21

Blaze Common Core - Host: David Barton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyCPC3S7Sy0

snip

Related and important is the connection with technology, common core and converting to Islam:
Common Core – The Qatar Connection: A Wahhabi State Skypes With Your Children – Connect All Schools
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3058348/posts
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2013/08/common-core-the-qatar-connection-a-wahhabi-state-skypes-with-your-children/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Common Core Lesson Plans: A call to Jihad, Converting to Islam, 5 Pillars of Islam, submitting to the Will of Allah

http://bradleycountynews.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/common-core-lesson-plans-a-call-to-jihad-converting-to-islam-5-pillars-of-islam-submitting-to-the-will-of-allah/


12 posted on 09/23/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: joe fonebone
my bitch was allowing teachers to take individual liberties in the classroom versus teaching to a standard.. it would appear the standards being used are pro communist and anti constitution..

The education establishment is overwhelmingly controlled by leftists.

They control who will be allowed to become teachers, so it should not be surprising that there are a lot of leftist teachers and administrators.

Any "standard" created by the education establishment will be similarly leftist.

13 posted on 09/23/2013 6:29:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Kaslin
My wife is a teacher in Illinois.

The common core is a joke. It will not be implemented, because the teachers will not do it.

Kind of funny in a way. The very incompetence of the teacher's union will work against the common core.

14 posted on 09/23/2013 6:46:22 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t care what it teaches, the CONCEPT of common core is stupid.

If run 100% by conservatives and teaching traditional whatever, I would oppose it.

You can’t say that EVERY child at age 8 should be able to do X. That is not how human beings work. Children aren’t widgets who can be checked by a uniform quality control program.

An 8 year-old may be doing algebra, but struggling with spelling. Is that a failure, or just a part of normal learning? The THEORY behind one standard for all children, male and female, at age X labels that child a failure.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 7:06:33 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: Kaslin

bump


16 posted on 09/23/2013 9:12:59 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Flick Lives

Disregard it!


17 posted on 09/23/2013 3:23:28 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Standing Wolf

.....And those they try to kill, they will fight or revolt back.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 3:26:19 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: cizinec
You can’t say that EVERY child at age 8 should be able to do X.

Sure you can; here's one: every child should be able to read and write by age 8.
See: easy.

That is not how human beings work. Children aren’t widgets who can be checked by a uniform quality control program.

No, but there are certain things that do indicate problems: like if they never outgrow "baby-talk" it could be indicative of hearing damage.
One thing that concerns me is where as-a-society the "adult-bar" is: 12, 16, 18, 21, 25, "when you get a job", "when you move out"? One thing to keep in mind, is that where you place that "adult-bar" is where you are implicitly saying "everything that someone needs to know to act like [and function as] an adult should be learned by this point."

An 8 year-old may be doing algebra, but struggling with spelling. Is that a failure, or just a part of normal learning? The THEORY behind one standard for all children, male and female, at age X labels that child a failure.

Algebra is easy, by 8 virtually every kid* should be doing algebra. (Solving for unknowns using +, -, *, /.) Moreover, I firmly believe that every 12 year old should be learning Calculus, which deals with the rate-of-change, and is used in virtually every aspect of your life.

* - There are people who cannot learn, or are very slow to learn, this is the reason for the term 'retarded'.

19 posted on 09/27/2013 10:59:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Sure you can; here's one: every child should be able to read and write by age 8. See: easy.

Read and write what? Should an 8-year-old be reading chapter books? If so, which ones? Back up your claim with research.

What level of algebra should a child of 8 be doing, and on what theory or research do you base your answer?

Aside from your belief, on what do you base your theory that "every 12 year old should be learning Calculus?" EVERY 12 year old?

I couched my argument in terms of "you can't say." I stand corrected. You can say it all day long. It will be the same giant turd the state has plopped in our public schools, but you sure can say it.

20 posted on 09/28/2013 6:31:04 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec
>> Sure you can; here's one: every child should be able to read and write by age 8. See: easy.
>
> Read and write what? Should an 8-year-old be reading chapter books? If so, which ones? Back up your claim with research.

Would experience work? I have 10 younger siblings, all of them have been able to read a chapter book by 10, even the ones with dyslexia, most of them before 8.

> What level of algebra should a child of 8 be doing, and on what theory or research do you base your answer?

On the theory that it's far easier to learn the non-intuitive rules before your brain loses the plasticity of childhood (i.e. the thing that makes kids such excellent learners); the jewish tradition of bar-mitzvah is held at 13, and at such point "they become accountable for their actions." (See wiki) -- so there's a whole culture that has the "adult-bar" (more accurately accountability-bar) placed fairly low. [Actually more than just the one, but it serves as a good example.]

As I said previously, you implicitly have to have all the skills and knowledge to function as an adult before you reach your adult age -- I believe that calculus should be one of those, as should: logic (informal is fine), philosophy (at least the basics), theology (your answer to "who/what is God" deeply impacts every facet of life), cooking (at least enough that you could make something edible from the common contents of a refrigerator), cleaning (you should at least know how to clean up [doing is another matter, I should know I'm a bachelor]), accounting [really 'record-keeping' w/ a little basic arithmetic].

Basically everything one needs to be a functioning adult human.

21 posted on 09/28/2013 9:06:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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