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CNN's Hillary Clinton film scrapped as director blames lack of co-operation
The Guardian ^

Posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Charles Ferguson says he was met with a wall of silence from more than a hundred people who refused to be interviewed.

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1 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

they were scared of being added to the clinton death pool


2 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:50 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Red in Blue PA

LOL. You’d think Hitlery’s lesbian lovers would be clamoring to speak.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 6:45:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A few hundred FReepers would have been more than willing to give their views on Hillary.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 6:46:44 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

the fact that he cancel the doco because pro-clintons refused to give him interviews, show just how bias he was. Why not interview anti-clinton ppl to do your doco


5 posted on 09/30/2013 6:47:12 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Red in Blue PA
Charles Ferguson says he was met with a wall of silence from more than a hundred people who refused to be interviewed.

LOL, so many refuse the honor of the Sacrificial Goat List.

6 posted on 09/30/2013 6:48:12 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Paging Danesh D’Souza...I’m sure his would be more than objective.


7 posted on 09/30/2013 6:48:18 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: 4rcane
Why not interview anti-clinton ppl to do your doco

He stated he even had problems getting Republicans and archival footage from Pat Robertson's network. For a true biography, you need people who have been close to the Clinton's, which would include some opponents, but mostly members of the Clinton axis.
8 posted on 09/30/2013 6:49:46 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If you just think about it, there are really only two reasons that these folks will not go on record..
FEAR and COMMON SENSE


9 posted on 09/30/2013 6:50:40 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

None dare speak the truth about PIAPS.

Yet PIAPS is the ‘Rat choice for the next chief executive.

It’s beyond scary.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 6:53:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: yldstrk

How about “Hillary” ....as seen by Chelsea?


11 posted on 09/30/2013 6:55:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Who knows Russian? What's the opposite of гла́сность?
12 posted on 09/30/2013 6:56:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: BenLurkin

PIAPS? Poop in a pantsuit?


13 posted on 09/30/2013 6:56:37 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Right Brother

Pig In A Pantsuit — you’ve got to be a veteran FReeper to know the history behind that name.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 7:01:30 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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During a panel discussion last Tuesday at the annual meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative, Hillary was asked “how important” it would be for the US to elect a woman president. She suggested that it could help eliminate some of the economic barriers women face in the US and globally....

HILLARY'S 2016 CAMPAIGN / THE CLINTON FOUNDATIONS / AND MUSLIM TERRORISM --- The recent news expose that a Muslim terrorist was working at the Clinton Foundation AND conducting terrorist activities at the same time, explains why the Clintons just remade themselves into the hallowed "Clinton Family Foundation."

The "Holy Family."

The Clintons' 24/7 self-promotion--a familiar do-good liberal schtick: whining about "helping" the needy, and hoping to make a buck on it.

All of the Clintons' shady proclivities are unveiled in the recent NYT investigative report. Corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. The Clintons didn't have a pot to *** in in Arkansas---never even had a home to call their own. Now they're multi millionaires.......the connivers have perfected the scam WRT gaming the system for themselves.

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There needs to be a thorough going-over of the three Clinton Foundations' funding. We need to know who pays/funds the Clinton's real lifestyle especially now that Hillary is running for prez. It is important to know to whom the Clinton's are truly indebted.

NY POST EXCERPT ----The Bill Clinton Foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses — Bill Clinton’s foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses since 2003, an analysis of the nonprofit’s tax forms reveal.....includes $4.2 million in 2011 for the William J. Clinton Foundation (to which Hillary and Chelsea are attached); $730,000 for the Clinton Global Health Initiative; and $7.2 million for the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).

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How many ways can the conniving Clintons use their name to launder money?

<><> The William J. Clinton Family Foundation......

<><> the Clinton Global Health Initiative......

<><> the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).

More importantly, what is the connection between Corzine's MF Global, Teneo (which paid Bill Clinton $50,000 per month), The Clintons multiple tax-exempt foundations, and Muslim money-Laundering?

The more cynical among us might wonder if Teneo, Obama pal Corzine and his bankrupt investment company (MFG "misplaced" $1.4 Billion), and the Clintons' Foundations are money laundering for the Muslim Brotherhood. Read on.

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LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE WITH BILL AND HILL--- As President, Bill Clinton made policies that raised hundreds of billions (if not trillions) of dollars for his obscenely-rich donor/pals.

His North American Free Trade initiative made it easy for, and even encouraged, corporations to outsource jobs and then import their products back into the U.S...... The repeal of Glass-Steagall on his watch sent Wall Street into the money-making frenzy that led to the Great Recession/Depression of 2008......and subsequent taxpayer bailouts.

In exchange for these obscene gifts of corporate welfare, at the expense of America's middle and working classes, you'd think the Clintons' rich friends would have no trouble coughing up a mere $250 million endowment for the foundation.

Now it seems, the captains of crony capitalism are begging off....they just don't feel they have enough money to help their old friends Bill and Hillary secure their so-called "legacy."

Sen Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) is probing longtime Hillary Rodham Clinton aide’s employment status, asking how Huma Abedin got a sweetheart deal as a private six-figure consultant while at the State Department.

Abedin is married to disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner, loser in the NYC mayoral race. The two hauled in as much as $350,000 in outside income on top of Abedin’s $135,000 government salary after Weiner quit Congress over a sexting scandal.

Abedin was assigned “special government employee” status, and was able to haul in cash as a private contractor. One of her clients was Teneo Holdings, a consulting firm founded by Bill Clinton aide Doug Band.

Teneo’s Web site calls itself the “next chapter in strategic advisory,”

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NOTE: Last Dec, a former MF Global employee accused former president Clinton----chairman of Teneo's advisory board----of collecting $50,000 per month through his Teneo advisory firm in the months before MFG careened towards its Halloween filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, as hundreds of millions of investor funds disappeared, reports Human Events.

Teneo was hired by MF Global’s former CEO Jon S. Corzine to improve his image and to enhance his connections with Clinton’s political family, said the employee, who asked that his name be withheld because he feared retribution, according to HE. The Teneo contract with MF Global lasted at least five months, the souce said. “The board cancelled it after Corzine resigned.”

The source, who is no longer associated with MF Global, said Teneo is a dual-track company with one side devoted to merchant and investment banking and the other side set up to provide image and strategy consulting services.

The trustee for investors later sued JPMorgan bank for return of about $450M that MFG had transferred to the bank.

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HOW MANY WAYS TO MONEY LAUNDER? LET US COUNT THE SCAMS----Ponzi King Madoff laundered money for tax-exempt foundations and groups that handed him millions of dollars.

When he went to jail, investigators found Madoff had stashed billions offshore---into a labyrinth of financial entities. Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.

15 posted on 09/30/2013 7:03:51 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
DID THE CLINTON FOUNDATIONS USE THE MADOFF MO?

COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACIES GALORE Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny and generate more fees.

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WIKI.COM Stanley Chais, a philanthropist who invested heavily with Mr. Madoff, and Carl J. Shapiro, one of the money manager's oldest friends, are among at least eight Madoff investors and associates being scrutinized by the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan. Prosecutors are continuing to probe Madoff family members and employees.

Others include: Frank Avellino, a Florida accountant who ran an investment fund that invested client money; Noel Levine, a real-estate investor who works out of a two-room office on the 17th floor, next door to Madoff's fraudulent investment operation, and Palm Beach investor Robert Jaffe, a son-in-law of Mr. Shapiro who referred potential investors to Madoff. [4]

Madoff Securities International Ltd.----In 2008, about $1 billion was transferred last between Madoff’s U.S. firm and Madoff Securities International Ltd. in London. [5][6] On March 24, 2009 Judge Louis L. Stanton granted power of attorney to Irving Picard, trustee, over Madoff's controlling stake in London.[7]

Authorities in the U.K. are seeking evidence of money laundering involving the London business, Madoff Securities International Ltd., which opened in 1983 as a separate legal entity from Mr. Madoff's U.S. New York office. He allegedly sent more than $250 million beginning as early as 2002, from his New York-based firm, Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC, to the U.K. office and then back to accounts in the U.S.[5][6]

In 2000, Madoff began to add staff and expand the operation, and loaned the business $62.5 million. He had a staff of 25, including traders, managers and support. Instructions to staff was that they communicate with Madoff Securities through personal e-mail accounts, not through company e-mail.[5]

There were nine directors. Family members with shares included Mark and Andrew Madoff, Peter Madoff, and Bernard himself. Ruth Madoff, Bernard Madoff's wife, also held shares. [8] Non-family members with shares included Maurice J. "Sonny" Cohn. Madoff and Cohn were shareholders in Cohmad Securities, which steered investors to Mr. Madoff's advisory business.

In 1987, Mr. Cohn had shares of Madoff Holdings Ltd., a predecessor to the current London firm. In 1998, Mr. Cohn held 35,624 non-voting shares, some of which he transferred to "BL Madoff" in 1998, and the rest that he "disposed of" in 2004.[8]

Paul Konigsberg, a New York City accountant and a longtime friend for more than 25 years, prepared two Madoff Family Foundation tax returns, and received the non-voting shares, valued at $35,000. He did work for the London office when it was first opened. [8] A general ledger of Madoff accounts listed Konigsberg, of the reputable accounting firm of Konigsberg, Wolf & Co., as receiving $30,000 a month to advise the MSIL operations, and funnel client checks to the London office for Madoff's own use.[9]

Clients were often directed to Mr. Konigsberg by Mr. Madoff and his family. Mr. Konigsberg prepared the tax returns of foundations of six other families, many of which have lost millions, even hundreds of millions, of dollars. He also represented scores of individual Madoff investors.

Mr. Konigsberg's firm has received a civil subpoena from the SEC. His Madoff-related clients included Carl and Ruth Shapiro, Boston philanthropists whose foundation lost $145 million, and whose son-in-law, Robert M. Jaffe, under investigation, is a Madoff business partner.[9][10]

Konigsberg held Madoff accounts under his name including two in the name of the Westlake Foundation. Paul J. and Judith Konigsberg are officers and directors of the foundation. He owns homes in his wife, Judith's name in Greenwich, Connecticut and Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.[11]

On April 20, 2009, Steven Leber filed a $4 million lawsuit against Konigsberg and his accounting firm for negligence, and breach of fiduciary duty.[12] Konigsberg answered the charges with affirmative defenses.[13]

Evidence is being gathered by investigators on a U.S.-U.K. task force that Konigsberg and Levy, a real-estate mogul and philanthropist are believed to be involved in an international transfer of money. Levy is believed to have helped Paul Konigsberg funnel checks to London. And investigators in New York say there were billions of dollars worth of checks going back and forth between Madoff and Levy.[9]

Ruth and Bernie Madoff had an intimate relationship with Levy and his wife, Betty. Madoff was long known to have been Levy's "fixer," obtaining everything from choice restaurant reservations to emergency medical care. Levy had offices one floor below Madoff's in New York’s Lipstick Building. It was Levy who introduced high-profile investors to Madoff.

Jeanne Levy-Church's losses forced her to shut her JEHT Foundation and her parents’ foundation, the Betty and Norman F. Levy Foundation, lost $244 million. JEH helped the less fortunate, especially ex-convicts.[9][10]

16 posted on 09/30/2013 7:04:52 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Red in Blue PA

If only Old Crusty could talk. Bet he’s got shelves of material.


17 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:32 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Red in Blue PA

Couldn’t find an actress willing to wear 100lbs of cellulite prostheses.


18 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:49 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Anyone that knows Hillary Clinton knows it would be stupid to do or say anything that could be viewed as unflattering to her.


19 posted on 09/30/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

If she is that intimidating, why didn’t she defeat Obama in the primaries, I wonder?


20 posted on 09/30/2013 7:12:19 AM PDT by married21
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To: Red in Blue PA

Private production. Then air it on the Hillary Channel. You know, the one with the motto, “free and compulsory.”


21 posted on 09/30/2013 7:18:02 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: Texas Eagle
You’d think Hitlery’s lesbian lovers would be clamoring to speak.

Loose lips, sink...I forget the rest of the saying

22 posted on 09/30/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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Gehad el-Haddad
(The stupid Clintons did not know Gehad was Farsi for "jihad"?)

A senior Muslim Brotherhood official employed by the William J. Clinton Foundation was arrested in Cairo, charged with inciting violence.

Gehad el-Haddad served as one of the Muslim Brotherhood’s top communications officials; he was a top Brotherhood official and adviser to Barack Obama's hand-picked Egyptian candidate, Morsi (now deposed).

Gehad el-Haddad served for five years as a top official at the Clinton Foundation, a tax-exempt do-good foundation founded by former President Bill Clinton.

El-Haddad pushed the Muslim Brotherhood’s Islamist agenda in the foreign press, where he was often quoted defending the Brotherhood’s crackdown on civil liberties in Egypt.

Gehad became the public face of the Islamist terrorist organization soon after leaving his post at the Clinton Foundation.

Much of Gehad's official work with the Muslim Brotherhood took place while he was still claiming to be employed by the Clinton Foundation.

23 posted on 09/30/2013 7:25:57 AM PDT by Liz
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Behold what 'smart power' hath wrought: Obama's careening and incomprehensible handling of the Syrian crisis.....doing a Costa Concordia with US ntl security and foreign policy. In short, Obama outed himself as naive, isolated....and outlandishly stupid. Remember, The goal of smart power is to accomplish an "important foreign political objective without firing a shot."

Not to forget then-Secy of State Hillary's part in the debacle.

The Democrats' 'Smart Power' Lies in Ruins
National Review | Sept 3, 2013 | Jim Geraghty / FR Posted by kristinn

Democrats Suddenly Realize What They Miscalculated About the World: Everything

As we await Congress’ decision on authorizing the use of U.S. military force in Syria, Democrats are suddenly realizing that their foreign policy brain-trust completely misjudged the world.

Being nicer to countries like Russia will not make them nicer to you. The United Nations is not an effective tool for resolving crises. Some foreign leaders are beyond persuasion and diplomacy. There is no “international community” ready to work together to solve problems, and there probably never will be.

You can pin this on Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Susan Rice, but most of all, the buck stops with the president. Those of us who scoffed a bit at a state senator ascending to the presidency within four years on a wave of media hype and adoration are not quite so shocked by this current mess.

We never bought into this notion that getting greater cooperation from our allies, and less hostility from our enemies, was just a matter of giving this crew the wheel and letting them practice, as Hillary Clinton arrogantly declared it, “smart power” (and fronted Time magazine cover).

(These people can’t even label a foreign policy approach without reminding us of how highly they think of themselves.)

They looked out at the world at the end of the Bush years, and didn’t see tough decisions, unsolvable problems, unstable institutions, restless populations, technology enabling the impulse to destabilize existing institutions, evil men hungry for more power, and difficult trade-offs.

No, our problems and challengers were just a matter of the previous hands running U.S. foreign policy not being smart enough. (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...

24 posted on 09/30/2013 7:28:04 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Red in Blue PA

Most of them responded, “I don’t remember, my brain’s in a blender, it’s Jello....”


25 posted on 09/30/2013 7:29:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“”you need people who have been close to the Clinton’s,””

Those people only vote - they can’t talk anymore.


26 posted on 09/30/2013 7:30:06 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Red in Blue PA

bump


27 posted on 09/30/2013 7:42:05 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: married21
If she is that intimidating, why didn’t she defeat Obama in the primaries, I wonder?

I think they made a deal. I'm not sure who had the stronger hand, though.

28 posted on 09/30/2013 7:48:28 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: married21
I don't think Zippo was supposed to be elected.

I believe right at the last minute he was supposed to be found ineligible to be president and Hillary would take his place.

This would have set up a situation almost exactly like the 1992 election that got B Clinton elected.

There would have been massive race riots, the economy would have completely collapsed, and surprise surprise there was a terrorist attack planned for NYC.

Personally I believe you would, to quote Hillary, have to suspend disbelief to believe it was just a coincidence all three had occurred almost exactly like 1992 just by coincidence.

29 posted on 09/30/2013 7:49:45 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Red in Blue PA
Charles Ferguson says he was met with a wall of silence from more than a hundred people who refused to be interviewed.

There's the movie! It would be a great deal more interesting to examine why people won't talk than to make some fluff piece pulled from public accounts.

Fear! Intimidation! Blackmail!

This is the story that everyone guesses, but no one will say.

30 posted on 09/30/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: T-Bird45
Pig In A Pantsuit — you’ve got to be a veteran FReeper to know the history behind that name.

Hillary is an old bag. Spread the word.

31 posted on 09/30/2013 8:02:05 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: N. Theknow

Exactly - if CNN cared to expose this woman for what she is, there’s no lack of people who would testify to her perfidy. All CNN is talking to are former Clinton associates and flunkies - that’s all that’s in their Rolodexes.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 8:02:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: Red in Blue PA

Well, this tells you it wasn’t Hillary’s idea. That or her team has already sunk money into the NBC movie.


33 posted on 09/30/2013 8:16:09 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: BenLurkin

LOL! The resurrection of “PIAPS” ..... glad to see it.


34 posted on 09/30/2013 8:24:48 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Arkancide - It’s BACK!


35 posted on 09/30/2013 8:52:43 AM PDT by GladesGuru (uences)
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To: justlurking; married21; Nachum
If she is that intimidating, why didn’t she defeat Obama in the primaries, I wonder?

I think they made a deal. I'm not sure who had the stronger hand, though.

Odinga won, by making people close to the Clintons die. He showed the Chicago Way was more ruthless than the Dixie Mafia.

Nachum, The List, please...

36 posted on 09/30/2013 9:04:59 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


37 posted on 09/30/2013 9:08:59 AM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: BenLurkin
None dare speak the truth about PIAPS. Yet PIAPS is the ‘Rat choice for the next chief executive.

I'll bed Ted Cruz and Rand Paul would speak the truth about Hillary if either of them were the GOP nominee. Chris Christie... he'd belly up for a hug.

38 posted on 09/30/2013 9:15:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Something strange about your links...


39 posted on 09/30/2013 12:33:32 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. - - Bill St. Clair)
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To: Red in Blue PA

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/09/30/hillary-clinton-documentary-canceled-cnn

From the link - about Bill Clinton:

I asked him about the financial crisis. He paused and then became even more soulful, thoughtful, passionate, and articulate. And then he proceeded to tell me the most amazing lies I’ve heard in quite a while.

For example, Mr. Clinton sorrowfully lamented his inability to stop the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which banned all regulation of private (OTC) derivatives trading, and thereby greatly worsened the crisis. Mr. Clinton said that he and Larry Summers had argued with Alan Greenspan, but couldn’t budge him, and then Congress passed the law by a veto-proof supermajority, tying his hands. Well, actually, the reason that the law passed by that overwhelming margin was because of the Clinton Administration’s strong advocacy, including Congressional testimony by Larry Summers and harsh public and private attacks on advocates of regulation by Summers and Robert Rubin.

Wow, I thought, this guy is a really good actor. And I also saw one reason why Hillary Clinton might not be thrilled about my movie.


40 posted on 09/30/2013 12:36:26 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. - - Bill St. Clair)
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To: Savage Beast

It means publicity.


41 posted on 09/30/2013 1:37:47 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin!)
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To: Liz

Placemark.


42 posted on 09/30/2013 2:24:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Buh-bye.

Thanks Red in Blue PA.


43 posted on 09/30/2013 5:30:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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