Posted on 10/06/2013 6:14:35 PM PDT by Nachum
Maybe he is speaking of the other constitution he holds allegiance to, the Koran. Maybe his secret swearing in ceremony was swearing to uphold the Koran. Seems the way events have been rolling out alludes to a Muslim Brotherhood agenda.
Were the US to default on its debt it would be BECAUSE the Treasurer (that crook Lew), would be directed NOT to pay it first in the funds that are available. There is no Constitutional way the Treasurer can select NOT to pay our debt obligations FIRST, before ANY other outlay. The money coming into the Treasury is more than enough to service our debt obligations— it would be a willful choice NOT to pay them, and a violation of Oath and the Constitution. The Treasurer serves the President, and the President would be impeached— let him try this crap.
The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with and does not provide for the President to do anything about the national debt-it was about recognition of the debt of the country as a result of the Civil War- this is sophistry at its best:
From Wikipedia:
“The debt-ceiling crisis in 2011 raised the question of what powers Section 4 gives to the President, an issue that remains unsettled. Some, such as legal scholar Garrett Epps, fiscal expert Bruce Bartlett and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, have argued that a debt ceiling may be unconstitutional and therefore void as long as it interferes with the duty of the government to pay interest on outstanding bonds and to make payments owed to pensioners (that is, Social Security recipients). Legal analyst Jeffrey Rosen has argued that Section 4 gives the President unilateral authority to raise or ignore the national debt ceiling, and that if challenged the Supreme Court would likely rule in favor of expanded executive power or dismiss the case altogether for lack of standing. Erwin Chemerinsky, professor and dean at University of California, Irvine School of Law, has argued that not even in a “dire financial emergency” could the President raise the debt ceiling as “there is no reasonable way to interpret the Constitution that [allows him to do so]”.
In short this is total utter BS for this “tyrant” to just fiat declare the ceiling lifted. He does and he is serious TOAST, from every direction. Mark Levin has commented extensively on this.
How does Obama “use the 14th amendment” when that amendment specifically says CONGRESS will do all of that stuff.
The South has been here before. Bring it obamaumao, and let’s see...
You know this how-—the current political sham that is most of the court including compromised contained Roberts. Not the principled justices, just the ultra libs.
This is thugocracy writ large to do this to the judiciary.
You cannot say that the 14th if cited... in any critical amount of time... would be proven supportive of this illegal action. The President does not control the purse strings of this country... ever.... and period.
Good dang question——these pinhead pals of his in academe think they can re-write whatever. The House specifically has this power.... period. They must exercise it one way or the other.
A busload of liberal law professors have said he can. Just because he's Him...
The same busload would argue for eternity that Presidents named George W. Bush couldn't do it.
Boehner knows this from the staphlococcus interview on ABC this AM- and why? Because his very existence and power would be forfeit if he and Congress don't act to declare their power unequivocally
But he does, and continues to do it with every edict he signs.
Not only Illegal, completely unconstitutional, a definite High Crime and Impeachable offense...I predict that this type of Tom Foolery by the White House and Obama could result in a real coup. Bloody or otherwise.
This type of power grab and outright tyranny would spark a serious problem and the true fact is that a vast majority of the military would NOT be with the POTUS.
I am not stating a wish or prediction. I am stating a warning that I would seriously be afraid that this type of outright tyranny could be a bloody affair.
It is downright scary!
China is not going to buy U.S. debt under constitutional challenge. No one is.
China hasn’t bought any new U.S> Debt in the past three years. The American people through savings bonds, T-Bills and the Federal Reserve through QE Infinity at the tune of $85Billion a month funneled through the big banks who are buying up government debt with the money are funding almost the entire debt and have been for almost five years.
Believe me, we are in heap big doo-doo and this Obama is the catalyst.
Former Reagan financial whiz Kudlow openly speculated on his Saturday 10/5/13 radio broadcast that Obama would by edict expand the US CB without allowing any reductions in spending.
The problem with the ruling class running this country is that they think theyre dealing with the run of the mill politician. Not with a stone cold communist academic who has surrounded himself with the same.
When he used the Zimmerman episode to create civil strife by announcing his attacker was a victim. of a security guard doing his job when shot and killed by the guard defending himself..On Obamas that could have been me , cue, the propaganda arm swung into action with drastic results..
The guard a big Obama supporter was an hispanic who is part black with a last name which is jewish. .Whos doing surveilance in a posted private mixed race area of modest means experiencing robberies and burgalries by young blacks. Being such its legal to question anyone of blue, red, green,white, or black complexion as to their purpose being there. In this security guard situation he discontinued a surveilance after being suggested to do so by the police.The guard could have legally questioned the person under surveilance but instead allowed him to continue on his way uncontested.
Only to have that person under surveilance as the guard was returning to his vehicle. knock the guard to the ground start beating his head against the sidewalk and wind up getting killed over a struggle the guards gun.
Now consider all those congressional investigations going on. If somebody even suggests impeachment. Get to your black base voters, whom youve done nothing for, all worked up.
Pick on some security guard whos doing his job and make him expendable. Time to employ propaganda devices. Emphasize that white jews last name! . Call that surveilance stalking!, The area hes patrolling public access area not gated owned by rich whitieys,never mention the guard is part african and dark skinned.. Depict that person hes watching a 10 year old black kid (show picture) a victim and a saint. Not a six foot 160 pound 16 year old, who was killed in cold blood and not who was killed fighting over a gun..The episode was given the full hyperbolic treatment which lasted for months and the results are clear..
You will never see a true or false poll conducted in black districts asking if they beleive the Zimmerman attacker a Travon Martin was the following : a victim, in a white neighborhood, ill-legally stopped ,accosted, and shot in cold blood . My guess is 80 % would respond true. Since this barrage of propaganda black youths have been using these devices as their excuse even citing the victims first name .
Innocent whites, hispanics and asiains being murdered because of the inflamatory rhetoric composed of lies and missconceptions being driven by the regime and its supporters in the media begun by the President of the United States.. Obama never disassociated himself from it, nor discouraged it.and the reasoning behind it ?
Well, he cant. He was using lies and fabrications painting a target on that security guards back when he geared up his black base .Aint that neat ? What better way to discourage any investigation into malfeasance and corruption by organizing the base for riots in the streets ? Think its too far fetched ? Think its not working ? Look again http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051558/posts
By not denouncing and exposing the medias disgusting role and allowing the Presidents ruthless use of propaganda. If Obama does move in that direction it will be because he was never challanged when he pulled this off.
The SCOTUS OVER THE LAST 40 years almost always sides against the people and against freedom.
Federalism went out the window with the 17th Amendment and our freedoms cannot possibly return without its repeal.
“but a couple of clauses refer to insurrection and rebellion and the 3rd clause refers to the removal of legislature members considered to be in rebellion.
Actually, you may say this is a dubious source but it backs up the theory;
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/pentagon-warns-to-expect-radical-change-in-us-government-soon/
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