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Elephants Understand Human Gestures
Scientific Computing ^ | October 10, 2013 | University of St Andrews

Posted on 10/14/2013 8:38:08 AM PDT by null and void

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Professor Byrne explained, “It has long been a puzzle that one animal, the elephant, doesn’t seem to need domestication in order to learn to work effectively with humans. They have a natural capacity to interact with humans even though — unlike horses, dogs and camels — they have never been bred or domesticated for that role.

Never Professor? Never?

I'll buy not since the last Ice Age, but not never.

We and they could well have had quite the relationship during and prior to then.

Not much evidence of a civilization left after everything got scraped flat and covered by a 300 ft sea level rise, but perhaps traces linger in our genes...

1 posted on 10/14/2013 8:38:08 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void

Dogs inherently understand the human pointing gesture too.


2 posted on 10/14/2013 8:41:18 AM PDT by DManA
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So what the hell good is that tidbit of what they call knowledge. It’s still “ring the bell” cr**.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 8:43:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Not much evidence of a civilization left after everything got scraped flat and covered by a 300 ft sea level rise, but perhaps traces linger in our genes...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of the slightest evidence of any technological civilization prior to the most recent glacial period which lasted from roughly 110,000 to 10,000 years ago.

4 posted on 10/14/2013 8:44:06 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: DManA

The article does talk about dogs point-following abilities.


5 posted on 10/14/2013 8:45:46 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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Elephants can mourn their dead too, should we elevate them above humans, NO, but we should elevate them above food animals.

Elephants should only be killed if they “become bad” and endanger human lives, other wise we should preserve them as they are of child like intelligence.

Same goes for the great apes and dolphins.

But we should still eat cows and gazelles


6 posted on 10/14/2013 8:46:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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"Dogs inherently understand the human pointing gesture too."

Sometimes I wonder how these characters got PhDs in elephontology (and $ 150K/yr. tenured positions) and then come up with the most inane findings. You could have saved the country millions by the above remark. Bet you didn't get a grant, either.

7 posted on 10/14/2013 8:47:24 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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They mention dogs but they are wrong:

a skill the dogs probably learn from repeated, one-to-one interactions with their owners.”

No. experiments show they understand it inherently.

8 posted on 10/14/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by DManA
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Yeah?? You run up on a squirrel with a raised stick, they’ll know what that means too.


9 posted on 10/14/2013 8:51:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Kip Russell

Nor am I. At least beyond tales of Atlantis and Mu. I’m not willing to totally rule out the possibility, though.

And I’m also assuming that the pyramids really are only 4500 years old.

Still, how much recognizable evidence would there be of a society that was so advanced that everything they built and used was biodegradable and recyclable, after an intervening ice age and major sea level fluctuations?

Keep in mind that so 80% of the world’s population lives within 200 ft of sea level and that sea level rose 300 feet after the last ice age...


10 posted on 10/14/2013 8:53:14 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: GraceG

Agreed.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 8:54:28 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Kip Russell
There is some compelling evidence that the Spinx in Egypt is 12,000+ years old.

It is my understanding that civilization requires agriculture, and agriculture started (in the west) about 7,000 B.C. so if the Spinx really was built 10,000 B.C. who built it? And then there are the Great Pyramids, again there are good arguments that those could not have been built by a (mostly) stone age people, re the 2500 BC Egyptians.

12 posted on 10/14/2013 8:55:06 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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Whenever I point, my cat comes over to smell the end of my finger.


13 posted on 10/14/2013 8:56:16 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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No. experiments show they understand it inherently.

Some do, some don't.

I was never able to get our otherwise brilliant Cairn to look anywhere but the end of my finger.

14 posted on 10/14/2013 8:56:23 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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My old dog surely does, and I never trained him to do anything but lay down and sleep.


15 posted on 10/14/2013 8:59:15 AM PDT by DManA
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What breed?


16 posted on 10/14/2013 8:59:49 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: DManA
A *ahem* pointer?
17 posted on 10/14/2013 9:00:43 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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And what do you do with elephants when they are overpopulated and eating everything in sight? Regulating hunting of wild elephants provides meat for the locals, an infusions of cash from the trophy hunters, and maintains a healthy and stable population.


18 posted on 10/14/2013 9:03:16 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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Half bichon, half cocker.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 9:07:32 AM PDT by DManA
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Elephants Understand Human Gestures

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Homicide?
20 posted on 10/14/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by Bratch
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