Skip to comments.Insiders who worked on US health website describe high stress, complaints about major problems
Posted on 10/22/2013 4:23:57 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
As questions mount over the websites failure, insider interviews and a review of technical specifications found a mind-numbingly complex system put together by harried programmers who pushed out a final product tested by the government and not private developers with more expertise.
A review of internal architectural diagrams obtained by the AP revealed the systems complexity. Insurance applicants have a host of personal information verified, including income and immigration status. The system connects to other federal computer networks, including ones at the Social Security Administration, IRS, Veterans Administration, Office of Personnel Management and the Peace Corps.
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I have a hard time believing anyone doing government work is actually working hard. I call BS.
Obama will be holding another Rose Garden event to announce the newest enrollment tool: a mimeograph.
Your info sure isn't safe.
Contractors work hard, the Govt “workers” not so much.
The people who managed the comparatively simple task of creating a sign-up website are now going to manage healthcare for 330,000,000 people.
What could go wrong?
If you say so.
FedGov contractors have real deadlines and don’t get paid or delayed payment if the deadlines are not met. The nuts and bolts of the federal bureaucracy is run by contractors.
Years ago...the Air Force put out a contract to replace an obsolete platform that intelligence analysts were using. The company who won the contract...over the previous company who built the last platform...was called Digital Fantasies. Their claim to glory? They’d built several video game machines for restaurants or bars.
They had eighteen months to build, test, and deliver. Nothing much occurred the first 90 days....mostly hiring a handful of people and drawing up the architecture. A demo was supposed to occur at 9 months to show forty percent of the requirement working to a limited degree. They extended it to ten months and barely a quarter of the software was shown.
Somewhere around fourteen months....major tests were supposed to start. Well, the software was nowhere near the ninety percent point. At eighteen months, it was being demonstrated and tested....with major errors. The company asked for more money and another six months. At twenty-four months....barely seventy-five percent of the program function as they were required to do.
There was nothing complex about any of the requirements or coding. Somewhere around thirty months from the start...the Air Force realized it would never get a complete delivery...gave up, and put out a new contract for another platform.
The general problem is that government project managers need to make a simple-defined starting point for software, and accept building onto it as the first product is delivered. Complex platforms...don’t usually work as advertised, unless you pour mountains of effort and money into the project.
If you look at Microsoft....it barely improves now....as each new edition arrives. You can stand and note twenty things that you see as new and better....but it’s the same platform base that you had in 1997. They know how to tweak it just a little....call it fresh and new....and sell it to you for a big price. The government? A bunch of idiots at software development and design. We are lucky that the ICBMs and nukes on them....ever produced results in the tests....and were fielded. Same way for the B-52, aircraft carriers, and the M-16.
Mind-numbingly complex? How could that possibly be the case?
I have a hard time believing anyone doing government work is actually working hard.”
It was extremely painful to watch C-SPAN when the vote was going on to end the shutdown. So many people milling around for hours doing absolutely nothing - and at taxpayer expense. I remember reading about complaints because the gym was shut down and Congressmen had no where to hide. They would all be hard pressed to work at a real job where one had to actually accomplish something.
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Now that makes sense to me.
Just needs more $$$.
On with the single payer express!
This is the opening trickle of the coming flood of CYA testimony that will shape and define the train wreck
Looks as obummer and his crew of low grabe morons would fu*k up a one car funeral.
This has become a major embarrassment to the President. The site doesn’t work AND people are seeing that the health insurance they didn’t want is going to cost them more than they want to pay.
They are even reduced to astroturfing with fabricated success stories. My brother even posted one.
Funny thing. Even if a state decided to not establish its own exchange, and leave that cost to the federal department, the residents of such states still get the federal subsidy. Should it be that way?
Unknowable requirements = unworkable systems
No, and I believe there is a lawsuit challenging the situation. Interesting if it works, because without subsidies, ain’t no one gettin on that train.
Not that I am advocating a misinformation campaign or anything like that, but it would be amusing if thousands of people posted such fabricated stories.
The stories would need to be just a little bit fanciful for maximum effect. "Gosh, but this Obamacare is wonderful. I signed up with no problem. I got full family coverage for just $12 a month. And for an extra $5, I got vet coverage for my dog Wahoo."
LINK to another source for this article if WaPo article behind a “limited articles” wall for some FReepers.
which basically means that programmers had unlimited access to all the tables in the various government databases, such as the Social Security (and quite possible bank accounts) . . .
They may not get the Obamascare site going, but they will be very successful in their new hobby of identity theft . . .
You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing.Thomas Sowell
Typical liberal incomeptence. They could have contracted Amazon or Google or Yahoo (all ran by left wing libs) three years ago to build the websites.
They handle more traffic in one hour than Obamacare since inception.
Of course, the product still sucks.
A working website would be like any of the innumerable mortgage calculators. Put in your age, number of dependents, location, and whatever minimal health information such as smoking/pregnancy is required. Out pops a set of prices with benefit levels. Put your favorite price(s) in a second calculator with your income from the last 1040 or other tax filing, and out pops your subsidy, if any. I could code that in one day, but then people would know what was going on, and that would defeat the purpose of the $500M DeathPanels.gov website.
If you like Obamaware, you’ll LOVE Obamacare.
Ain’t gonna git any easier.