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Obamacare: Fewer options for many - "big black hole"
CNN ^ | October 29, 2913 | Jen Christensen

Posted on 10/29/2013 1:30:23 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

(CNN) -- Some of Thomas Harte's New Hampshire neighbors are frustrated by the Affordable Care Act's insurance marketplaces but not for the reasons you might expect.

Harte is an insurance broker. He still has his share of frustrations with the marketplace websites, but the growing number of complaints he hears come from clients and fellow brokers who have seen the policies these marketplaces offer.

Nationally the marketplaces offer tens of thousands of different policies with a wide variety of coverage, but Harte has noticed many have one thing in common: They cover a narrow network of doctors and hospitals.

That narrower network comes as particularly bad news for the residents of Concord, New Hampshire.

Concord's one hospital won't accept any policies offered by the marketplaces. To see a doctor, specialist or primary care provider affiliated with the hospital, patients on these Obamacare plans will have to pay out of their own pocket. The closest in-network hospital is in Manchester.

"Can you imagine having to go 25 miles away to Manchester to get access to a health care provider that is covered by your insurance?" Harte asked. "Right now, Concord is one big black hole of health care for people buying these plans."

And it's not just Concord. Nationally, consumers are learning a number of well-known hospitals won't accept insurance offered through the marketplaces.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; access; blackahole; blackhole; healthcare; insuranceisnotaccess; lies; noaccess; obamacare; rinocare

1 posted on 10/29/2013 1:30:23 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s a big black hole alright!


2 posted on 10/29/2013 1:32:47 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“big black hole”

Is that considered racist? I just can’t quite grasp all the nuances of American racial politics. /s


3 posted on 10/29/2013 1:35:06 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Hoyer: Dems knew some patients would lose ins plans under ObamaCare (misled to allay fears) "....."We knew that there would be some policies that would not qualify, and therefore people would be required to get more extensive coverage," Hoyer said during a press briefing in the Capitol.

The promise that patients could retain their current coverage was designed, Hoyer said, "to allay the fears of somebody that had insurance — group insurance, for the most part — that do meet the criteria."

"We've used that [message] in trying to allay the fears of people who have group policies or significant coverage … through their employer, which was the overwhelming number," he said. "I think we could have caveated [to say], 'Unless you have coverage that's insufficient to accomplish the objectives of giving you adequate, quality healthcare.'"

Pressed as to whether Obama and the Democrats misled the public on the topic, Hoyer conceded the party's message could have been better articulated.

"I don't think the message was wrong. I think the message was accurate. But it was not precise enough," he said. "Clearly, it should have been caveated with, 'Assuming you have a policy that, in fact, does do what the bill is designed to do.' " ......

4 posted on 10/29/2013 1:35:22 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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SLATE:".......... This is a funny use of the word "fact." As has been reported for some time -- as is only being felt now that it's real -- the regulations that followed the passage of the ACA removed the protections on plans that had been changed, by insurers, after March 2010. Conservatives claimed that people who currently enjoyed their smaller health care plans would be forced off, in the long march to single payer. The president repeatedly denied this. The president was not telling the truth......"
5 posted on 10/29/2013 1:42:27 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Everything government touches it destroys.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 1:43:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rats, enjoy your “free” healthcare, good luck finding it.

Normal people, hope you can find good coverage another way.


7 posted on 10/29/2013 1:44:21 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t like Obama, but calling him a “big black hole” just seems uncalled for. /s


8 posted on 10/29/2013 1:44:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I MUST NOT MAKE A JOKE ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA
I MUST NOT MAKE A JOKE ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA
I MUST NOT MAKE A JOKE ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA
I MUST NOT MAKE A JOKE ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA
I MUST NOT MAKE A JOKE ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA

9 posted on 10/29/2013 1:45:06 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You voted for Obama, New Hampshire. So quit your whining.


10 posted on 10/29/2013 1:47:41 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Concord's one hospital won't accept any policies offered by the marketplaces.

I have a feeling that many doctors and hospitals will refuse the 'insurance' plans offered by the government, just like they do with Medicare and Medicaid.....

11 posted on 10/29/2013 1:47:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger; Jimmy Valentine
FReeper: Jimmy Valentine

"collapsing in on itself faster than a Florida sinkhole."

More like a galactic "black hole". The issue is will we all be pulled into the vortex or will we be able to steer away from the pull of Socialism.

12 posted on 10/29/2013 1:49:39 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Red Badger

“Concord’s one hospital won’t accept any policies offered by the marketplaces.”

I guess they won’t be in business very long.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 1:50:31 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"big black Mulatto- hole"
14 posted on 10/29/2013 1:51:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Concord's one hospital won't accept any policies offered by the marketplaces. "Can you imagine having to go 25 miles away to Manchester to get access to a health care provider that is covered by your insurance?" Harte asked. "Right now, Concord is one big black hole of health care for people buying these plans."

The Obamas bemoaned "food deserts", and have now brought us "medical deserts". The White House medical staff is probably dining on wagyu beef and arugula, standing at the ready in case Moochelle stubs her toe.
15 posted on 10/29/2013 1:52:58 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, then, they are going to have to mandate more paid time off and transportation, so those people from Concord can get to their doctor appointments in Manchester. It cannot be avoided.... (/s)


16 posted on 10/29/2013 1:53:56 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

‘Assuming you have a policy that, in fact, does do what the bill is designed to do.’

Which translates as “assuming you have the policy WE want you to have”. (Because obviously you’re not capable of making your own decisions)

Elitism at its finest.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 2:05:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So CNN has another Michelle Obama special yet again.......


18 posted on 10/29/2013 2:13:09 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: LostInBayport

Lol, a medical desert.

I keep reading how they’re taking away my “weak, not really insurance” insurance for my own good.

I liked my “weak, not really insurance” insurance. It protected my assets from a catastrophic event at a reasonable price, and that’s all it was designed to do. I guess the idea of having something to lose is evil in and of itself, and I should be punished.


19 posted on 10/29/2013 2:13:23 PM PDT by ToastedHead
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To: kevao
That they did. No sympathy for 368,529 proven idiots. FU Obamatards!


20 posted on 10/29/2013 2:19:08 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Constitution Day

Why not? She is definitely on the list of People-Who-Demand-Ridicule.


21 posted on 10/29/2013 2:21:02 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Doc Savage

In. He’s a scrawny black hole.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 2:36:09 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This guy is an insurance broker and he still doesn’t have a clue? Goodgodafriday! This late in the day he never understood that access/service/choices would diminish under Odumbocare. Worse, he still doesn’t understand that the ACA is designed to put him out of business. The Kenyan thinks he’s a greedy capitalist and rakes off health care money that could really better be used by Gummint to provide care to democrat voters. No MYSTERY here-—the Kenyan has said exactly that. No sympathy from me. He’s got to get his head some sunshine-—it’s been in a shady spot for way too long.


23 posted on 10/29/2013 5:07:07 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

To claim that options are “limited” is a gross understatement. Actually there’s only ONE mandated, legally allowable policy: the oBamKare Policy. The only difference in the “plans” is the payment amount vs deductible amount and which doctors and hospitals have signed up with which plans. The mandated gold-plated coverage is EXACTLY the same for all policies.


24 posted on 10/29/2013 5:23:10 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: kevao

“..You voted for Obama, New Hampshire. So quit your whining.....”

Amen, Bro. As did Jersey and CA. All you obamarroids slept with the dog, now enjoy the flea bites.


25 posted on 10/29/2013 6:18:49 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bttt


26 posted on 10/29/2013 8:12:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Having to drive 25 miles. The horror!


27 posted on 10/29/2013 8:44:28 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Doc Savage

28 posted on 10/29/2013 9:12:29 PM PDT by Route395
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Darkness warshed over the Dude—darker’n a black steer’s tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.”

—From THE BIG LEBOWSKI

29 posted on 10/30/2013 12:49:22 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Route395

I think we should all try to log on. I actually tried to get on while she was testifying... nope! site temporarily down!!
What a bunch of clowns. You own this democrats!


30 posted on 10/30/2013 1:23:14 PM PDT by refermech
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