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'I just shot someone': The dramatic moment man who 'gunned down
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 12 November 2013 | WILL PAYNE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:01:14 PM PST by moonshinner_09

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To: JimRed

“Any black is now suspect as a potential threat. Not fair, but the real world.”

Especially whites, every black that would set foot on my property in an urban setting is justified to “fear for ones life”


61 posted on 11/14/2013 7:29:15 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: moonshinner_09

What are the odds that she didn’t have a cell phone? How did she get a mile away from the accident for hours in below freezing weather?


62 posted on 11/14/2013 7:40:32 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My friend who happens to be a lawyer told me exactly what to do if I even so much as drew my weapon, much less ever fired it.

STFU was his exact words, you have the right to remain silent so USE it, especially when you first call 911 to report it. He even goes so far as to recommend someone else call for you so you’re not on the recording at all if possible.

It doesn’t matter if the cops get all pissy because you hand them your ID and refuse to answer a single question, even that you were involved at all and it’s your gun laying there. He couldn’t begin to tell me how many people he represented talked themselves right into a corner because they were chatted up by the cops at the scene, even if they were innocent.


63 posted on 11/14/2013 8:29:00 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Gaffer
On the night in question Ms McBride crashed her car into a parked vehicle just before 1am. A neighbor called police and tried to help Ms McBride who was apparently disorientated and bleeding from her head.

Crashed into a parked car, so it was extremely likely to be her own fault. Need to find out if she was driving impaired.

At 1.40am a police cruiser was dispatched to the scene, but Ms McBride was gone.

Another example of the old "when seconds count, the police are minutes away". If the cops would have showed up promptly, she might be alive. I would also assume that the homeowner that called mentioned that she was hurt. An ambulance should have been sent as well. Also, according to the article, 1:40 was when it was DISPATCHED. Why so long between the call and the dispatch?

She walked for a few blocks, before knocking on the shooter's door. She was not shot until around 4am and it is not known what she had been doing for the two-and-a-half hours before her death.

So, in the 2 1/2 hours she was walking around, she went a few blocks. The police SHOULD have been searching for her since you have an injured accident victim that is missing. Where are the cops during this time? If they actually did look for here, why didn't they find her?

I can only assume that she didn't WANT to be found by or talk to the cops, and wandering off was the first step to that end. The only other possibility was that she was disoriented from the accident. In either case, the cops should have been actively searching for her because she's either evading justice or in danger due to injury. That she only went a short distance in 2 1/2 hours before getting shot, means that either the police didn't actually look for her, or she was evading them. They had enough time to cover every street in the area multiple times. Since they should have assumed that she was missing due to injury, this would include searching on foot.

Based on what we know so far and only looking at the events from the accident up to her knocking on the that door, the police dropped the ball in not locating her, but it's likely that that was in part because she didn't want to be found.

64 posted on 11/14/2013 8:45:33 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: expat1000

I haven’t read it yet:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2504431/Ex-says-white-Detroit-man-shot-Renisha-McBride-racist.html


65 posted on 11/14/2013 8:48:49 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

My guess is she was high as a kite on drugs and/or alcohol and didn’t want to be found with her car.

Additionally, I can well imagine someone drugged up or drunk feeling all ‘entitled’ and getting pissed when someone doesn’t open the door for them. Worse behavior has happened for far less provocation.


66 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: moonshinner_09

I happened across a conversation between a couple of guys that used to live in this neighborhood. Evidently, it has gone down hill very quickly and is now a craphole....

Their conclusion was that it is so crime ridden that they would have shot a “white” guy knocking on their doors at 2 am!


67 posted on 11/14/2013 9:08:20 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“This is statement he made to police:This man’s claiming – he believed the girl was breaking into the home. And he’s also saying the gun discharged accidentally,’ Now he cannot have it both ways”

Sure he can. Let’s say... she was beating on the door, he opens the door to see what is going on, and an enraged drunk attempts to walk in, he fears for his life, is backing up and the gun just goes off accidentally.

See how that works?


68 posted on 11/14/2013 10:40:01 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Exactly. The thing is, before people decide that the homeowner acted from bad intention, or even negligently, you have to try as best you can to figure out what information he had at the time, taking into consideration other factors like the hour, the behavior and actions of the other person, etc.

The totality of the circumstances as it were.

And then ask, “what could a reasonable person do in those circumstances?”

There are many things that could be exculpatory or inculpatory — based on the information available in the media (almost none) this could be anything from a justifiable homicide, a negligent homicide, or even (a remote possibility it seems at this point), murder.

The really ugly part of this is the politics, and the howls of the people looking to get a payday of some sort out of this. It’s so commonplace it’s almost invisible, but it’s sickening.


69 posted on 11/14/2013 10:52:55 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: cripplecreek

Her parents originally stated that she was shot in the back of the head. So I’m happy they are showing some restraint.


70 posted on 11/14/2013 11:46:41 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

If it was freezing that night, it might explain why the autopsy says she was completely wet.


71 posted on 11/14/2013 11:48:17 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

She had a cell phone but the battery was dead. It will be interesting to see who she called and spoke to ... especially if it was friends and family.


72 posted on 11/14/2013 11:49:35 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Abathar

Everyone in this country should watch that 50 minute video.


73 posted on 11/14/2013 2:30:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: BunnySlippers

I didn’t read it either. It doesn’t mean anything. Name calling has nothing to do with the facts. Let’s not fall into that trap.


74 posted on 11/14/2013 3:43:27 PM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

I didn’t post it to enforce calling the guy a racist. i posted it because even his ex-GF is standing up for him. You totally missed it!


75 posted on 11/14/2013 4:11:38 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Ah, I misinterpreted the “racist” in the link. Shouldha been “non-racist”. :-)


76 posted on 11/14/2013 4:29:20 PM PST by expat1000
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To: moonshinner_09

Why not?


77 posted on 11/14/2013 4:33:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: moonshinner_09

Decision today 11 AM:

http://www.detroitnews.com/livestream/article/20131115/METRO01/131115001/Watch-live-11-m-Worthy-discuss-McBride-case


78 posted on 11/15/2013 7:51:08 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Was it a “hate crime” too?


79 posted on 11/15/2013 11:15:08 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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