Posted on 11/15/2013 12:44:23 PM PST by Oliviaforever
A homeowner has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting of an unarmed woman on a suburban Detroit porch earlier this month.
Renisha McBride, 19, was killed on Nov. 2 in Dearborn Heights, Mich., when she went to a 54-year-old Theodore Paul Wafer's porch seeking help after a car crash, according to authorities.
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So the castle doctrine, mentioned in the article is irrelevant to you?? I say he had every right to defend himself against a PERCEIVED threat, and the accidental shot doesn’t come in to play.
Curiously, do you believe George Zimmerman was guilty?
Yup. That's not only for safety purposes, either (though that's obviously the primary reason). Intent can legally be inferred from one's actions; if you aim a weapon at someone and it discharges, there is going to be a pretty damn strong presumption that you intended to discharge the weapon.
And in Detroit.
His lawyer should use the Biden defense, but I guess it’s been tried and failed before.
He is not even arguing that he perceived a threat.
He is arguing that he had an accident.
He could be charged with wrongful discharge of a weapon
Homeowner Takes Biden’s Shotgun Advice, Gets Arrested
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3044224/posts
not guilty by reason of excessive dipshittery.
Of course the castle doctrine is relevant, but I don't think this shooting is justified under the castle doctrine. The castle doctrine states that you have no duty to retreat within your own home, and that you may use deadly force when you reasonably fear imminent death or serious bodily harm. Mere perception of a threat is not enough - it must be reasonable, and it is going to be very difficult to convince a judge or jury that you reasonably feared imminent death or serious bodily harm with a locked door between you and the source of the perceived threat.
Curiously, do you believe George Zimmerman was guilty?
Absolutely not. That was a clear-cut case of self-defense, and I believe that Angela Corey committed prosecutorial misconduct by bringing charges against Mr. Zimmerman.
No, the law says he has the right to protect himself against imminent unlawful use of force against him. There is no evidence at all that she threatened him in any way, or that she was trying to break into his home.
you don’t know WHAT he’s arguing. We haven’t heard anything from him. I think it’s stunning that so many people on FR would not wait for facts before deciding what really happened.
Just like the GZ case; many on here had to eat crow because they took the media’s word for crap and it was BS.
Did the guy shoot through a closed door? Do we have ANY other facts or even information confirmed and stipulated to? Right, we don’t....
He is arguing that he had an accident.
Good point. Technically, I think he's saying both, sort of - he's saying that he perceived a threat, and that's why he pointed the gun at her, but that he did not intend to shoot. But, the fact that he's even arguing that it was accidental tends to undermine the seriousness of the threat. "I didn't MEAN to shoot her, but even if I did it would have been justified because I thought I was in imminent danger" is not a terribly compelling story.
The prosecution said he shot through a closed door, in open court. The only witness to this shooting was apparently the shooter, so he was the only possible source for that information. If the prosecution was lying, the defendant's lawyer would have been screaming from the rooftops about it. The fact that it was not contested strongly suggests that that was how it happened.
ain’t that the truth
There are 3 things that jump out at me immediately, and I’m sure more will as the lack of a 2nd murder case unfolds.
1. Who heard the perp “knock” on the screen door?
2. The perp was found on the porch, where was her body shot/found? (the heavy winter door is inside the screen door and if she has “a large shotgun wound in the face, that door would be open).
3. Why is the victim being charged with 2nd degree from inside his own home through self defense.
I would like to know if there is a large deer slug hole through the winter door. A shotgun blast will pick up a 150 lb. person and throw them backwards.
"Rashid" + "McBride"....
I would guess either black or Irish.
I’m still trying to gather the facts. But on your post, I did go look. They said he opened the front door. The screen door was closed and he shot.
So the DOOR was OPEN, the SCREEN, was CLOSED.
rest assured, the facts of the case will probably be twisted and propagandized.
Thanks for being calm and reasonable.
I do.
He told the police that he fired the weapon by accident.
Unless he wants to argue in court that he lied to the police but is telling the truth in court, then that is what he's arguing.
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