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Elián González: My Time In The U.S. 'Marked Me For My Whole Life'
Fox News Latino ^ | 10/19/13 | By Havana (EFE)/Fox News Latino

Posted on 11/19/2013 2:40:27 PM PST by ColdOne

Elian Gonzalez, the object of a 1999-2000 custody squabble involving Washington, Havana and family members on both sides of the Florida Strait, holds a piece of U.S. legislation directly responsible for what he endured then, Cuban official media said Monday.

"They were very sad times for me, which marked me for my whole life. I was never given the chance to have a moment to think about my mother, who as a result of that (U.S.) Cuban Adjustment Act died at sea," the now-19-year-old Gonzalez said last weekend during a Union of Young Communists event.

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TOPICS: Cuba; Miscellaneous; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: castro; clintonlegacy; clintonsfault; communists; cuba; elian
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To: A'elian' nation
The obvious solution was to offer Elian's father the opportunity to live in Florida with his son--but of course the Clinton administration had to follow Castro's orders. During the time Elian's father was in the US, he was under close supervision by Castro's henchmen at all times.

It was Clinton who changed the rules--under the earlier set of rules Elian was absolutely permitted to stay in the US. Clinton modified to the "wet foot/dry foot" rules--because Elian was rescued at sea, he wasn't automatically entitled to asylum.

41 posted on 11/19/2013 4:19:44 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: fwdude
How is that characterization incorrect, discounting any motivation behind it?

I'm not going to indulge in that kind of sophistic moral relativism.

42 posted on 11/19/2013 4:23:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: fwdude
So, is "escaping-adject-poverty-for-economic-benefit" then justified by Mexicans?

No. They are two completely separate concepts.

You are conflating a communist state where every citizen exists at the pleasure of the dictator with a country that is free but where economic opportunity is more difficult to find than it is here.

We granted Cubans the right to stay in the US if they made landfall here because they were escaping hell -- not a bad economy.

43 posted on 11/19/2013 4:35:02 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: A'elian' nation
Sorry. I don't want any precedents that allow people who aren't here legally to stay in the US. If there's an exception, it'll be a precedent. LaRaza and the Muslim Brotherhood (etc) will hire scads of lawyers and use it to unravel what's left of immigration law.
44 posted on 11/19/2013 4:36:57 PM PST by grania
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To: BfloGuy

What if a North Korean submarine popped up off the Oregon coast and landed in a cove and they asked for asylum? Do you think the US would give it to them?

we should, of course. We should make sure they can be repatriated to South Korea too.


45 posted on 11/19/2013 4:37:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ColdOne
Elian right, Cuba's the best and the US sucks... Michael Moore told me so!


46 posted on 11/19/2013 4:45:12 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Parmenio

No, not brainwashed. Like all other cubans under castro rule, he knows what he has to say in order to stay out of prison.


47 posted on 11/19/2013 4:52:28 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I pray you are right.


48 posted on 11/19/2013 4:53:56 PM PST by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: fwdude

>> I don’t get it.

Maybe Ted Cruz could explain.


49 posted on 11/19/2013 4:57:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ifinnegan

One who said to send him back got beaten for governor of OK, an ex-athlete named Steve Largent.


50 posted on 11/19/2013 5:00:16 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Rome2000

People in OR have been communist-inclined since when? Well way back anyway.


51 posted on 11/19/2013 5:02:22 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: lowbridge
"No, not brainwashed. Like all other cubans under castro rule, he knows what he has to say in order to stay out of prison."

AND, I'll wager he gets a SECOND bag of rice per month to say such nice things about his Cuban "paradise".

He probably lords it over his fellow Cubans with their $30/month wages.

Elian is living the dream...

52 posted on 11/19/2013 5:12:05 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: grania

Lets compare this to the days of slavery before the civil war. Lets say a female slave decides to try to make her escape to one of the free states. She brings her child with her. About half way through her journey, she dies but her child makes it the rest of the way to freedom.

Then the father, still residing in the slave state as a slave, of the child demands that the child is returned to his custody where the child will be a slave too. Do you return the child to the father.


53 posted on 11/19/2013 5:12:16 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: fwdude
FReepers are often incensed at the practice of anchor babies and illegal immigrant children, and yet, want an illegal immigrant forcefully kept in the U.S., against his father’s wishes no less.

I won't comment on your obvious misunderstanding of escaping a communist hellhole and turd third Mexico

I will comment on Elian father....

You do understand he was forced by Castro under extreme duress...

54 posted on 11/19/2013 5:13:54 PM PST by Popman
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To: Popman
"You do understand he was forced by Castro under extreme duress..."

Yes, Popman. I remember this whole episode well.

Elian's "father" wanted nothing to do with his child until it became obvious that Castro could use him as a political pawn. He was not involved in his child's life in any meaningful way UNTIL this incident occurred.

I remember well the fancy suit and polished, expensive shoes that "concerned dad" wore when picking up his "precious boy".

Clothing that NO average Cuban could even dream of owning.

It was all about the politics, nothing more.

If Castro could manipulate Clinton and move him around like a marionette, he was going to do it.

Clinton obliged.

I'd wager that Elian simply went into some orphanage after the photo-ops were over, and "concerned dad" went back to his menial job.

In Cuban paradise.

55 posted on 11/19/2013 5:24:45 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: grania

I’m with you there on LaRazza and the Muslim Brotherhood, but back then we did not have special LEGAL asylum protocols for LaRazza and the Muslim Brotherhood.

We did however have such a legal protocol for refugees from Cuba. If they made it to dry land, they could legally declare asylum. As Verginius Rufus explained in a post here, Clinton and his cohorts found a way around the law and shanghaied the boy away at gunpoint to Cuba.


56 posted on 11/19/2013 5:25:11 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Shannon

Maybe he has reason to be angry. Especially at the U.S. and conservatives who do not value freedom.


57 posted on 11/19/2013 5:27:45 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: fwdude

“And, Elian would likely be voting Democrat had he stayed and gain citizenship.”

I’m sorry but your posts are illogical or an indication that you don’t understand the immigration laws.

I doubt he would be voting democrat. As freeper castlegrayskull just explained G.W. Bush probably owes his presidency to the Cuban vote in Miami. Freedom loving Cubans vote republican.

And learn what the immigration laws vis a vis Cube and the U.S. are and you’ll be better informed.


58 posted on 11/19/2013 5:34:41 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: grania

Troll.


59 posted on 11/19/2013 5:50:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Theodore R.

I was just about to post that Steve Largent was arguing for “Fathers’ Rights.”

The Elian Gonzalez case has to be the only time in history when there was a movement for “Fathers’ Rights.

The National Council of Churches and the Methodist Church were among various groups suddenly concerned over “Fathers’ Rights.”


60 posted on 11/19/2013 6:03:02 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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