Skip to comments.Could 2014 rescue Obama from Obamacare debacle?
Posted on 11/21/2013 11:17:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Can President Barack Obama heal his second term from the self-inflicted wounds of Obamacare? How?
The usual inside-the-Beltway doctors are offering the usual inside-the-Beltway prescriptions: Amputate! (He should fire someone.) Transfusion! (Bring new blood into his insular circle, ideally someone who can say no to him and have it count.)
Inside the White House, one remedy dominates the discussion. As Obama himself said Nov. 14: Things may turn around if we can just get the darn website working and smooth this thing out. Aides say that growing numbers of Americans signing up for health insurance will defend those benefits making it harder for Republicans to rally wavering Democrats behind crippling the Affordable Care Act.
Dig a little more, and administration officials confess to hoping that a steadily improving economy could be a political cure-all. The No. 1 priority has and will be economic progress, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Nov. 4....
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I think the question should be “can the media rescue Obama from Obamacare?”
The only way to get free of the quagmire is to ditch the program.
The 90-100 million that are going to lose their plan will override anyone currently enrolled.
Come 2014 there are going to be a lot of angry people who don’t like being forced to buy a sack of crap.
Also these new plans will prove to not be worth the paper they were drafted on, as finding medicos to service them will become quite difficult.
There will be a huge outcry between the two for a return to a sane, private system. Government will not be seen as a viable source of a solution, not with the way it bumbled this puppy.
Hubris, meet nemesis.
The fine doesn’t even go towards a credit for health care. Imagine a young person pays the fine for 20 years.
Obama should go out and talk about immigration. Talk about the economy. Talk about gay rights. Climate. Promise to close Gitmo[Guantanamo Bay],
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Talk about gun-grabbing. See if he can get those poll numbers into the teens.
What’s the reply to “I will not buy this record; it is scratched”?
More people than ever are going to have to choose between food and 0bama-Care. They need to start voting their stomachs instead of their sex parts.
This has been the plan for many months.
On July 2 Obama announced a year delay for business with 50 or more employees. Why?
As a contingency.
Because in March[1,2] he was briefed on a report warning of the potential for system failure that could make the health care exchanges inaccessible to consumers trying to buy insurance through them.
Most people have insurance through their employer.
By delaying the mandate for employers he minimized the number of persons effected by a non-functioning website.
His illegal delay decree ought to be declared by Congress as irrelevant, of no force, and DEMAND that the law be enforced. DO NOT GIVE OBAMA THE LUXURY OF TIME. TIME IS NOT OUR ALLY.
DO NOT CEDE TIME TO OBAMA.
Oh, time is a friend now. Because God is just a-layin’ the hammer of consequences down now.
And the longer the Rats take? The more hammered they get.
Let them choose whether to fix (abolish) it quick, or do it slow. And take accordingly less or more punishment.
Works for me!
“Dig a little more, and administration officials confess to hoping that a steadily improving economy could be a political cure-all.”
With plans to accomplish that by stealing what’s left of everyone’s disposable income.
“Aides say that growing numbers of Americans signing up for health insurance will defend those benefits”
It’s the oldest trick in the book. Get as many mouths at the trough as possible, then when you pull it away all the squealing pigs will fight you.
Nothing but more workers will improve an economy in the long run.
That’s why easy immigrant work policies make a perverted kind of sense.
Doing the work that Americans are too filled up with lies to do!
Except... I think the trough is going to be filled with stuff that acutely disappoints. Doctors don’t YET have to accept these plans, and would rebel en masse if they were ordered to (not to mention Constitutional protections).
“Can President Barack Obama heal his second term from the self-inflicted wounds of Obamacare? How? “
By resigning immediately....Obama and “big f’n deal) Biden.
The Speaker of the House would then be president and we would have new elections...
But that ain’t gonna happen...
Time is Obama’s ally. He’s betting on the website being operational by the time the vast majority of people lose their insurance.
Sure, that insurance will be more expensive, BUT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. Unlike now when it is not available.
I think this whole thing is over by the end of the month, or soon after. Every single day, thousands of low-information voters are discovering how terrible “Obamacare” is.
The Libs went a bridge too far, or maybe two of them. They angered much of their low-info base, and actually made them go looking for more info.
The whole thing is a miscalculation of astonishing proportions.
With so many low-infos being dropped from their insurance plans, and checking out how much they’ll have to pay for comparable “Obamacare” ... Well, I can’t see them being fanboys or fangirls of the lame duck very much longer.
Promise them, "If you like your plan, you can keep it."
And serviced by just whom?
It’s going to make the old stuff look like gold.
God ain’t mocked here, bud. Let the Democrats choose the duration of their agony. And be anxious not.
There would not be “new elections” in that instance until 2016. Mr. Boehner would be president until at least January 2017, just as Gerald Ford served out Richard Nixon’s second term.
I’m not mocking God. I don’t know where you get that idea.
Even a President Boehner would be head and shoulders above Big O and Slow Joe.
OK.....was not sure about that....
You speak fallacies.
I primarily refer to DEMOCRATS being unable to mock God.
Look, they are taunting the Lion of Judah who is also the Great Physician. Do you really want it to be over with quick? They need the time to learn the lesson good.
We’re gonna end up having to legalize pot just to get the tax dollars to fund SS/Medicare. Immigrants will be a net loss if they all qualify for subsidized air/food/health.
I never stated differently. Heck, a president 2ndDivisionvet or HiTeck RedNeck would be vastly superior to the current regime or cankles.
If you wanted to elect me president I would not refuse.
But I am not sure I could deal with all the Washington egos. I think I’d give them all conniption fits.
I speak fallacies? Yeah ok, whatever. You’re not making much sense vis-a-vis anything that I’ve posted.
Maranantha. Good night.
Time for Chief Supreme, John Roberts, to make amends and declare the whole mess, tweaks and all, unconstitutional.
I’d be the first really redneck president. Jimmy Carter didn’t really have a red neck. He just pretended to.
I’m not sure you want to blithely beg a “maranatha.” Not without getting right about things. You’d get rebuked. Of course I don’t make sense to you and I don’t expect to until you repent.
President Carter was a prig and a goo-goo. The morale at the White House went WAY up when President Reagan came into office, believe me. Even among us spear carriers.
That would be called feeding a new case to the USSC based on Constitutional provisions about taxes.
Here’s a new thread: 2015 Obamacare Enrollment Will Be Delayed Until Just After the Midterms
Now it really is “good night”
Prigs are not God trusting people. They think they can come up with a moral code that stands alone. Never worked, never will.
That’s him. Woodrow Wilson without the charm, but with all the racism.
What, you didn’t keep your promise? And you are talking to yourself?
Anyhow, let the Democrats choose the speed of their passage through a well earned hell on earth. This has become a non plus ultra. And it’s God’s grand lesson in teaching a people to appreciate how wrong lies are and how right the Truth is.
“A form of religion [godliness], but denying its power.”
No, nothing can. 0bamaCare has been set in motion and nothing can stop its inevitable implosion.
> Aides say that growing numbers of Americans signing up for health insurance will defend those benefits making it harder for Republicans to rally wavering Democrats behind crippling the Affordable Care Act. Dig a little more, and administration officials confess to hoping that a steadily improving economy could be a political cure-all...
As part of pro-Obamacare meme-building, media’s trumpeting the 22% gain in the DJ 30 for 2013, without any of the leftist redistributionist naysayers (like Obama, for instance) claiming that this is just another case of the Haves enriching themselves at the expense of the Have Nots.
What has also worked is single-office health maintenance plans. Anything that can be treated in the office is treated, for a flat monthly fee. No more insurance bookkeeping, just a list of the patients and the minimal billing overhead for the subscription.
I don’t think young people will ever sign up unless they are already in the system.
Well, there's a little problem with that. A couple of them, actually.
The first is that the website's functional problems (to "customers") are merely a surface scratch. The fatal wound(s) are the security vulnerabilities. The problems were built in right from the start, and now there are half a BILLION lines of code written (with even more yet to come just to complete the site.) This cannot be fixed easily, and these people are presently too trapped in what they've created, or are too ignorant, or too arrogant, or more likely all the above, to understand how bad it is. Any person or business entity with an account on healthcare.gov should assume any "data" they gave to healthcare.gov is in the hands of hackers. I'd give you 50/50 odds the Iranians have it, and I'm sure simple theft is the least of their intentions.
Worse, these fools apparently don't understand that the more people who sign up, the greater the security disaster. (Most of) the "pigs" who would squeal at the loss of their health care are going to be even more upset when they find out what identity thieves will do to them.
SORRY commies but reid just killed dim rule for decades.
That would be a good idea. After the fiasco that has been the Obamacare roll-out, Roberts should not feel obligated to give the Obamanation another get-out-of-jail-free card.