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US Shuts Down Vatican Embassy After Striking Deal with Iran
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2013 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 11/27/2013 8:44:49 AM PST by Kaslin

What would you do next if you had successfully brokered a “Neville Chamberlin” style deal with a rogue state that wants to annihilate America and her Middle East allies? Well. . . You’d downgrade diplomatic ties with the Vatican, of course. At least, that’s what you would do if you were working in the Obama White House. The White House has recently announced that they will shut down the US Embassy to the Holy See, and relocate it to a “safer” location on the grounds of the American Embassy in Italy.

Officially, the US is explaining the relocation effort as a security measure in reaction to the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi. . . Because, ya know, those crazy Vatican Catholics are a naturally militant bunch. Heaven forbid someone makes an anti-Christian movie! Whoa, the whole place could erupt into a deadly string of mass prayers and forgiveness! (Ahem… Sarcasm.)

The decision on part of the US Administration to move the American Embassy is being interpreted by many as a slap in the face to the Vatican. At the very least, it is likely to produce a tension that will lead to a deterioration of US/ Vatican communication and cooperation.

Adding to the suspicion that America’s decision is primarily political, and not based in security concerns, is the fact that the current Embassy has state of the art security. According to former US Ambassador James Nicholson, the current location is highly secure, and pivotal to continuing relations with the Holy See.

Besides: We’re talking about the US Embassy. . . In Vatican City. It’s not as if we’re discussing an un-fortified compound in the heart of a Libyan war-zone. (Cough*Benghazi*Cough) Here’s a solution: add a couple more Marines, and maybe borrow the Pope-Mobile for high profile visitors.

Suggesting that Obama is intentionally downgrading US/ Vatican ties due to some resentment toward Catholic policy would almost seem too petty to contemplate; until it is put into a broader perspective. The Holy See has proven, throughout the years, to be a monumental asset in world affairs. Our relationship with the Vatican aids in humanitarian missions, peace brokerage, and international trade with governments of all religious affiliations.

According to Nicholson, “This is anything but a good time to diminish the stature of this post. To diminish the stature of this post is to diminish its influence.” In an age where Obama’s allies in the Middle East include Taliban rebels and Al Qaida operatives, the timing seems even more precarious. When Iran feels emboldened on the world stage, when Israel feels threatened, and when Christians are finding the Middle East to be an ever-increasingly dangerous corner of the world, one would think the US Government would be bolstering its relationship with God’s emissary.

But. . . Maybe that’s the problem. Perhaps Obama is just a bit upset that the Catholic world headquarters hasn’t yet offered universal contraception to its female members. Or perhaps he’s a little unnerved about their use of the word “Christmas.” Or, maybe, he’s just feeling a bit irritated that the Pope consults God every day, rather than the White House.

Whatever the reason, the end result is the same: A sizeable devolution of US/ Vatican ties. Not to mention a marginal political fallout here at home. After all, Christians are less than pleased with the details of Obamacare, the repeal of “don’t ask don’t tell”, and the White House’s general disregard for religious liberty. So… What the heck? Go ahead and insult the Pope while you’re at it.

Furthermore, the move illustrates our President’s perspective on “right” and “wrong” when it comes to world events. It says something about the Administration’s world view when they champion an Iranian Nuclear deal that lifts sanction and emboldens our enemies the very same week they withdraw diplomatic ties from the Vatican.

At least When Neville Chamberlin was trotting around Europe declaring “peace in our time”, he was primarily naïve. That’s not necessarily the case with our current leader of appeasement.

Of course, then again, maybe the President is just trying to be fair. Maybe he didn’t want Israel to feel like the only religious sovereign-state to be snubbed by the US this week.


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To: Lx

But that’s pretty transparent, so long as you realize that he’s not stupid but malicious.


81 posted on 11/27/2013 9:18:02 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Kaslin

So this is why Francis the pope came out against
capitalism and for communist redistribution. He was throwing
a little hissy over this.


82 posted on 11/27/2013 10:02:08 PM PST by Slambat
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To: MasterGunner01

Rush Limbaugh is rather pleased.


84 posted on 11/27/2013 10:20:41 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Kaslin

Well the opportunity has been handed over on a silver platter. The Vatican will never delegate its affairs of State to the Italian “government”.

And so it is time bow for the underground freedom republic in America to establish independent diplomatic channels with the Vatican, independent of the Nationalist Socialist Muslim Dictatorship in D.C.

I am planning shortly to take steps in that direction myself, direct action. We must begin building our international allies: none better suited to support American freedom than the Vatican.

It seems appropriate to bemoan the loss of a diplomatic ally from the US government, and yet we have been handed a gift on a silver platter - the opportunity to forge international diplomatic relations with the Vatican, the bedrock of morally conservative ideology.


85 posted on 11/27/2013 10:37:40 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Kaslin

Saint Obama , the annointed fascist president,will have no other god(s) before him, but Allah.

Besides, the Vatican is full of pedophiles./S


86 posted on 11/28/2013 12:00:23 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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87 posted on 11/28/2013 12:05:45 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tugo

Are they old buildings converted? Like old fortresses?

Just curious.


88 posted on 11/28/2013 12:32:50 AM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: GraceG

Same. Makes sense to me.

I bet a few prisoners will be pardoned as well as part of the deal.


89 posted on 11/28/2013 12:34:02 AM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: napscoordinator

Really? How do you know this? What is your source?


90 posted on 11/28/2013 1:35:26 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Kaslin

“Officially, the US is explaining the relocation effort as a security measure in reaction to the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi”

Im wondering if there is a planned terrorist attack on the vatican in the near future and the administration knows about it. After all, what is iran going to do with their shiny new nukes?


91 posted on 11/28/2013 4:22:37 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Arthur McGowan
Why would a Muslim country president have an embassy at the Vatican?
92 posted on 11/28/2013 5:28:28 AM PST by Road Warrior 04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: GraceG

Sorry there GraceG, but I think Kaslin is referring to the one at the culminating episode of the world as we know it. We can only find out which is the correct prefix, either ‘a’ or ‘the’ by what unfolds in the future.


93 posted on 11/28/2013 6:06:31 AM PST by Kalam (<: The answer is 42 :>)
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To: Kaslin; zot; Interesting Times; NYer; Salvation; SeekAndFind; SeraphimApprentice; Alamo-Girl; ...

This is UNBELIEVEABLY OUTRAGEOUS. The ‘reducing size’ announcement earlier was outrageous, this is worse. I had sarcastically said that the mis-administration would move the Vatican personnel to Mecca, I guest that they are going to move them to Tehran instead. And have them there for another hostage situation that my high school friend and classmate when through for 444 days.


94 posted on 11/28/2013 6:07:19 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: MasterGunner01

It was a joke. I said it because Rush was pissed of with the Pope yesterday. Happy Thanksgiving.


95 posted on 11/28/2013 6:18:20 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: rcrngroup; Kaslin; NYer; Salvation; zot; daniel1212

I will take issue with bh0 being the ‘anti-Christ’ in the original use of the Latin or Greek, which meant ‘pseudo’ or ‘false Christ’ in a person claiming to be the 2nd coming of Christ and falsely gathering the duped faithful to him. At least that is what I remember from the priests in college 4 decades ago and from a couple of deacons and elders more recently.

As bh0 being the ‘anti-Christ’ defined as ‘against Christ,’ I am in full agreement with you.


96 posted on 11/28/2013 6:25:06 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Perhaps the Pope should start building Nukes and fund the IRA....


97 posted on 11/28/2013 6:29:40 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Yorlik803

Perhaps Mayor Flynn raised the money to purchase IRA nukes already


98 posted on 11/28/2013 6:31:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Kaslin
Barry Soetoro is using the power of his office to do what he said he would do - “side with the Muslims when push came to shove”.

Billions for Iran and a big f-u to the Vatican.

99 posted on 11/28/2013 6:40:00 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Good Point. I hope this little tirade, by the administration, enlightens more Roman Catholics to the facts. Obama and his minions aka democrats have again pushed them under the bus.
One hopes that after getting run over yet again it will wake them up from their indoctrination and finally leave the demoncrats and not look back.


100 posted on 11/28/2013 6:47:03 AM PST by Kalam (<: The answer is 42 :>)
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