A United States 'Spring' Coming?

ABC News ^ | December 5, 2013 | Matthew Dowd

[Vince Ferrer]

Tea Party needs to reach out to young people who have college debt and are now supposed to pay for Obamacare.

[tbw2]

The IRS interfered with the Tea Party, such as refusing to grant them non-profit status so they couldn’t organize effectively and handing off donor lists for conservative causes to liberals to harass.
There were suspicions of this two years ago, but now we know for a fact.
And the anger of those who tried to organize is greater, while the reasons to be multiply.

[Sequoyah101]

Pretty amazing isn’t it? All that and no notice of it, no response from just about anyone. The only real coverage was in the blogosphere.

One of those things that makes you go, “huh?”

This was the most glaring evidence that we are not in control of an out of control government I have ever seen. Just IGNORED is all we got. IGNORED by everyone. The agenda is in place and will not be diverted by peaceful means.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I don’t know. Lots of people are seemingly content with being degraded into a state of permanent dependency. No chains, no whips, no barbed wire. Just 50 million people munching sugary carbs and living vicariously through celebrity gossip.

[BlueCat]

It’s time for him to take his meds.

[Sequoyah101]

Teach your children well. I mean that in the best way possible. Teach them why this is done before their heads are filled with the communist manifesto.

Liberty is the highest human state and also the one that demands the most self-discipline.

[cripplecreek]

The Occupy Wall street tantrum was supposed to be the American spring as well.

[Da Coyote]

Change “spring” into “CW-II” and I agree.

[Cicero]

Matthew Dowd? Did Maureen have a sex-change operation?

[2ndDivisionVet]

One does not need to have such an operation to refer to themselves in a different fashion, see Chelsea Elizabeth Manning the former PV1 Bradley Edward Manning.

[Billthedrill]

An astonishingly naive piece from one of Dowd's political antecedents - this is, after all, the same fellow who helped run the Bush-Cheney campaign in '04. I don't believe he understands the nature of the Arab "Spring" - that would be the one that led to Sharia in Libya and threatened to do so in Egypt - if he conjures up similar conditions in the United States, at least at the present time.

Marx must be giggling in Hell - the middle class is not the wellspring of revolution, indeed, it is the biggest bulwark against it, which was why Marxists need it to be marginalized before it was wiped out. 0bama and his merry band have made considerable "progress" along that line in their insistence on redistribution of wealth, especially but not exclusively through 0bamacare. Dowd needn't look very far for that source of middle-class discontent, which is only now starting to bite. Misdirecting the passion away from the truly guilty is a media specialty of the moment. It isn't bankers and Wall Street who have just commandeered one-sixth of the nation's economy, it's the government, stupid!

The highly sensationalized shootings Dowd cites are a case in point with respect to this misdirection. Far from being canaries in his coal mine, they have had nothing to do with any sort of political discontent and everything to do with out-of-control, deeply disturbed mental patients. There's no Spring there.

There are, to be sure, certain very identifiable sources of discontent within young people: the government-controlled student loans market, the government-controlled mortgage arena, the government-controlled employment shortage, and now the government-controlled expropriation of health care. Notice the commonality?

If there is to be any sort of Spring, by which Dowd apparently means a mass movement in the streets, it is likely to be pointed at the above, and its name is Tea Party, and its likely direction will be to sweep establishment political types of both parties aside, and that means our Mr. Dowd.

[Chickensoup]

The IRS interfered with the Tea Party, such as refusing to grant them non-profit status so they couldn’t organize effectively and handing off donor lists for conservative causes to liberals to harass.
There were suspicions of this two years ago, but now we know for a fact.
And the anger of those who tried to organize is greater, while the reasons to be multiply.

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YOu know FR runs without IRS help, and it does pretty well. There is no reason in God’s creation that any protest to the current regime needs to be a tax deductible entitiy. I don’t think that those who protest need permission.

[MUDDOG]

for people in this country who have been ignored, misled, and forgotten about

For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones and worse,
And for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe.

[Steve_Seattle]

"The highly sensationalized shootings Dowd cites are a case in point with respect to this misdirection. Far from being canaries in his coal mine, they have had nothing to do with any sort of political discontent and everything to do with out-of-control, deeply disturbed mental patients. There's no Spring there."

The only mass shooting that struck me as a possible "canary in a coal mine" was Columbine. In that case, the perps seemed just a little too much like hundreds of thousands of other young people of their generation - cynical, arrogant, nihilist, contemptuous of other people, irreligious, post-modern, and seemingly sane. I actually can imagine an OWS-type movement filled with such people and initiating widespread violence and terrorism. A few months ago, for example, a crowd - a large crowd - of students at Western Washington University engaged in widespread vandalism when police tried to break up a noisy party filled with underage drinkers. If someone channeled that anger into political ends, we could have a new generation of brownshirts

[Irenic]

I for one think we need some alternative for people in this country who have been ignored, misled, and forgotten about in the halls of power in DC and Wall Street to assert a new way and institute new leadership and structures that are responsive.

Oh hell no. We don't need NEW. We need to leash our politicians and government back to the Constitution. It is all this new chit that has caused us to go off the rails. I don't think we have anybody smart and moral enough nowadays to create what our founders did. I don't want some crazy socialist list of rules that will take our freedoms, I want more freedom and less nanny government. Follow and be restrained with what we have!

[Chode]

look at the chart in post#9, that correlates with the crash in 1929

[kevslisababy]

“Forceful and non-violent”...describes a really rank and smelly fart.

[mountainlion]

Landslide

[dragnet2]

I hate to pop your bubble, but this epic government corruption includes the Republican party too.

[EricT.]

Tea Party needs to reach out to young people who have college debt and are now supposed to pay for Obamacare.

Absolutely. They are the ones who will be stuck with paying for the excesses of previous generations.