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Nelson Mandela, R.I.P. (National Review editorial)
National Review ^ | December 6, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar
Mandela was by far the most revered statesman of our time.

If true it illustrates just how far the world has fallen.

61 posted on 12/08/2013 11:43:44 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

If I owned FR, I think I would ban articles from National Review from being posted for a while.


62 posted on 12/08/2013 11:45:52 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: caveat emptor

Mandela: Nelson by name, defender of British values by nature


When Mandela met Mrs Thatcher after leaving prison, they talked for so long in No 10 that the press outside began to chant “Free Nelson Mandela”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DG8hK2i3DY

From the above article:

At a press conference afterwards, he said that their differences were only about methods: “She is an enemy of apartheid.” Later he said, “We have much to thank her for.” For her part, she admired his courtesy and his courage, though not his socialism.

Go figure.

63 posted on 12/08/2013 11:46:08 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: EveningStar
This is what Mandella was known for: NECKLACING


64 posted on 12/08/2013 11:49:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: rktman

RIH = Roast in Hell?


65 posted on 12/08/2013 11:49:34 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: B4Ranch

Did he endorse this practice following his release from prison? Or was necklacing more identified with his wife Winnie while he was in prison?

Just asking. I really don’t know.


66 posted on 12/08/2013 11:58:14 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

He invented the practice and was proud of it.


67 posted on 12/08/2013 11:59:37 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: WXRGina

Works for me.


68 posted on 12/08/2013 12:00:48 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: dainbramaged

I hope it was not a premium beer.


69 posted on 12/08/2013 12:24:59 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: EveningStar
This article needs a barf bag notation to go with it. Watching Nelson Mandela given sainthood by the media is like watch Stalin being given a pass on the murder of millions of Russians, Ukrainians, and other peoples.
70 posted on 12/08/2013 12:44:30 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: 353FMG

Alaskan Amber :>)


71 posted on 12/08/2013 12:47:15 PM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: duckman

They won’t slobber over Billy Graham.


72 posted on 12/08/2013 2:16:26 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Luke21

Yep.

Mandela is almost like Jesus to NR editors. It’s insane.


73 posted on 12/08/2013 2:17:41 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EveningStar

He proudly says he signed off, as leader, these attacks and bombings WHILE in prison. He was offered a chance or several to be released from prison if he renounced violence. He never did.


74 posted on 12/08/2013 2:19:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: MasterGunner01

How long after he leaves office will NR take to deify Obama?


75 posted on 12/08/2013 2:20:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EveningStar
The reverence the world feels for him has to do, in part, with the nature of his adversary: the white, racist apartheid government of South Africa.

It and his laughable "moral authority" was ENTIRELY based on that.

I am disgusted to see the National Review join the Newt Gingrich wussy retard parade in praising this red terrorist.

76 posted on 12/08/2013 2:42:17 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Lonely Are The Brave
We live in a time when Political Correctness will not allow any negative remarks be made against a black man.

A marxist black man.

Go ahead and call Clarence Thomas a 'house n***er' in the company of liberals and all you'll get from them is a giggle.

77 posted on 12/08/2013 4:15:57 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Impy

WINNIE MANDELA TO BE HUMAN SHIELD’

HTTP://WWW.WND.COM/2003/02/17348/

Nelson’s ex-wife, convicted of helping murder child, wants to protect Iraqi kids

WND 02/19/2003

Winnie Mandela, ex-wife of South Africa’s former leader Nelson Mandela – and long known for her open advocacy of torturing rivals, as well as for her 1991 conviction for being an accessory to the brutal murder of a 14-year-old boy – wants to travel to Iraq to become a “human shield” so she can protect Iraqi children from American attacks, according to the South African Press Association.

A member of parliament in the African National Congress, the controversial figure was known during the waning days of the apartheid era for her enthusiastic and public support of “necklacing” blacks suspected of “collaborating” with the white government.

“Necklacing,” typically carried out by members and supporters of the African National Congress, consisted of binding a black adversary hand and foot, draping gasoline-filled tires around legs, midriff, and neck, and setting the victim ablaze. Often, children were forced to witness their parents’ agonizing deaths.

Although she would later deny it, videotape of Mandela at a large, April 1986 outdoor rally in Soweto shows Winnie Mandela proclaiming to a large crowd: “We have no arms. But we have stones. We have our boxes of matches. We have our bottles. … With our necklaces, we will liberate this country!”

Moreover, Winnie Mandela was found to be complicit in the brutal killing of a 14-year-old boy named “Stompie” Seipei. According to The New York Times, three survivors of the ordeal testified in court that Winnie initiated the beatings of several youths, hitting young Stompie with a stiff rawhide whip called a sjambok, and urging others to hit him. His battered body was found later, his throat cut. Jerry Richardson, one of Winnie Mandela’s bodyguards, was convicted in May 1990 of murder, attempted murder and kidnapping. According to a Newsday report, Justice Brian O’Donovan “implicitly found her to be an accomplice. … The evidence, O’Donovan pointedly told the court, had the ‘ring of truth.’”

Nelson Mandela – today revered by many in the West as a great reformer and man of peace – was in fact the head and co-founder of the ANC’s military wing, and was imprisoned for spearheading the effort to commit widespread terrorism in South Africa. Although Mandela was almost always referred to as a “political prisoner,” Amnesty International declared in 1985 that “Mandela had participated in planning acts of sabotage and inciting violence, so that he could no longer fulfill the criteria for the classification of political prisoners.”

Upon his release from prison in 1990, Mandela publicly paid tribute to Joe Slovo, leader of the South African Communist Party. “I salute the South African Communist Party for its steady contribution to the struggle for democracy,” Mandela said at the time. Later elected as the nation’s prime minister, Mandela praised Fidel Castro, Yasser Arafat and Muammar Gadhafi for their “love for human rights and liberty.” He recently ridiculed President George W. Bush publicly for his commitment to military intervention in Iraq.

Winnie, whose last name today is Madikizela-Mandela, wants other South African women to join her in going to Iraq.

In a press statement issued yesterday, an aide explained: “She wants to involve women from across all parties and interested groups, on a mother-to-mother basis. Mrs. Madikizela-Mandela believes we have the experience in South Africa of having seen our children needlessly killed.”

Saying she would defend herself next week in court against charges of theft and corruption, Madikizela-Mandela added, trying to justify her chronic absenteeism from Parliament, that it was very difficult to “share the chamber with politicians from the apartheid era who have the blood of black children on their hands.”


78 posted on 12/08/2013 5:50:36 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: EveningStar

We’ll just gloss over the history of violence and the push for Communism....


79 posted on 12/08/2013 6:47:05 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Democrat_media
[Your quote] Genocide watch will not downgrade the situation to stage 5 until Malema steps down from government.

This guy seems awfully junior in the ANC, doesn't he, to be leading a genocidal massacre for which SA will be pilloried (well, unless the Usual Suspects interpose and crush the press coverage) for decades to come?

The equivalent office in the Third Reich, the leadership of the Hitler Youth, was held by Baldur von Schirach. He had no power, only position, and a story told about him and his wife's being snubbed later in the war suggests that he was, for six months at least, unaware of the Wannsee Protocols and their implications, and of the ferocity the other top Nazis wanted brought to the roundups.

From which I conclude that Baldur von Schirach was not in the loop on the highest goals of the Nazi Party.

80 posted on 12/08/2013 8:16:46 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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