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Nelson Mandela, R.I.P. (National Review editorial)
National Review ^ | December 6, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

Mandela wanted to set off explosives in malls and schools to maim and kill as many women and children as he could. Fortunately he was caught. For some reason they imprisoned him instead if executing him.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 10:01:05 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: WXRGina
Mandela the communist terrorist was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes, but Mandela, the post-incarceration political figure, especially in contrast with our own president, was a great guy. He supported a constitution with checks and balances. He supported the rule of law. He did not do to South Africa what folks like Mugabe and Chavez (and Obama) did to their countries.
22 posted on 12/08/2013 10:04:17 AM PST by aruanan
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To: EveningStar

“Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority” —— Really? More than the Pope?


23 posted on 12/08/2013 10:04:37 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Lonely Are The Brave

The National Review is a worthless magazine now.
I am quite sure that William Buckley, and the National Review, supported Reagan’s policy of “Constructive Engagement” with South Africa. Basically, Reagan felt that imposing sanctions against Apartheid South Africa was counter-productive. He also knew that Mandela was a vicious communist and did not want to do anything that would strengthen the ANC. I think the Reagan policy was the correct one, of course.

ALL these supposedly conservative pundits praising Mandela makes me want to puke.


24 posted on 12/08/2013 10:05:23 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: EveningStar

“Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority.”

So all you have to do to have “unmatched moral authority” is to put a tire full of gasoline around your opponents neck and murder them horribly?

I am glad we do not have many more people like that in this world.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 10:10:35 AM PST by Clay Moore ("In politics, stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Me thinks Nelson was just another Che.


26 posted on 12/08/2013 10:12:35 AM PST by V K Lee
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To: aruanan

I hear you. But, being a stickler for punishing law-breakers, I won’t do that. The dumb-azz press will, though.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 10:15:37 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Lonely Are The Brave
Absolutely. Too quick to excuse his past and in fact, his continued associations.

And almost completely dismissing his legacy, which is the present state of South Africa. I guess because (so far) they have only killed off about 10% of the whites.

28 posted on 12/08/2013 10:17:36 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: EveningStar




The following are the charming words of an ANC song which Nelson Mandela took pride in singing:

Ayasaba amagwala
Awudubule (i)bhunu
Ziyarobha le zintsha
Awudubule (i)bhunu


They are scared the cowards
Do shoot the/a farmer (Boer)
They rob us, these dogs
Do shoot the/a farmer (Boer)
29 posted on 12/08/2013 10:17:41 AM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Clay Moore
So all you have to do to have “unmatched moral authority” is to put a tire full of gasoline around your opponents neck and murder them horribly?

I call him "Michelin Mandela"

30 posted on 12/08/2013 10:21:41 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: EveningStar

Madela was part and parcel a fictitious construct of the imagination of the self-assessed enlightened and guilt ridden Leftist Western people.

He was a terrorist. His bombs destroyed innocent people. Men, women, children..., guilty of anything or not, they were his targets if he could spread terror and move public policy.

He was caught. He was sent to prison. He remained in prison. He was a danger to society.

South Africa is not better off today for him having come to power. It is by far worse off. The life of the average African national hasn’t improved. Whites are in worse shape too. Radical elements prosper. Crime flourishes. Government insiders support racially motivated violence.

Mandela became a figurehead. He was the darling of the Left. Never ones to actually “THINK” about what might happen, they always become enthralled with an individual, then push them despite the obvious danger ahead. Sadly people on the right join in too, because they want to be seen as caring, respectful of “politically correct” people and things they do. They join the Left to ignore the ramifications, and soil themselves by so doing.

Bush jumps on board. He has convinced himself that Mandela was the best thing that ever happened to South Africa. And what of the victims of the violence in South Africa? What about the governmental and social decay down there? What about the plight of the average man on the street, be they African or White? Who cares? They’re wrapped up in the beauty of the moment.

Those who supported Mandela and now mourn his loss, need to do a lot of soul searching. They should ask themselves these questions:

1. If someone bombed their local supermarket and killed members of their family and friends just to make a political statement, should they be revered, heralded, and supported to head up the government?

2. Should they be lauded decades on end, forgetting what they had done?

3. Should their family members be able to utilize “The Necklace” to kill Africans?

4. Should it matter if government and society decays once they are in power?

5. If they support despicable Marxist governments that destroy their own people on a whim, should they continue to be thought of as a great person?

6. Should our children be worshiping these sorts of men?

7. Should our society as a whole support these men?

The West should be ashamed of itself for buying into the Mandela myth. You sometimes see towns hoodwinked by such a man. You sometimes see states taken over by one, and fooled. Sometimes a nation can be taken over by one. Today we see evidence that the world was fooled by one such man.

Nelson Mandela should have been executed for his crimes.

He is no global hero, unless you like indiscriminate killers whose wives have placed tired around the necks of her political enemies, poured gasoline on them, and set them on fire.

Mandela didn’t die this week.

The real Mandela died decades ago, so that an imposter could take over a nation and hoodwink an ignorant global populace.


31 posted on 12/08/2013 10:22:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Mandela and the whole anti-apartheid movement were devised by the Left (with the encouragement of the Soviet government), as a way to counter Reagan and Thatcher’s emphasis on the Soviet Union as the center of evil in the world.


32 posted on 12/08/2013 10:25:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I know our Left went for it lock stock and barrel. I’m sure the Soviets were thrilled with it. Birds of a feather and all...


33 posted on 12/08/2013 10:28:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: V K Lee
123 Golden Cage Mandela's "golden cage" is in sharp contrast with the treatment given by his comrade, Fidel Castro, to Cuban political prisoners.
34 posted on 12/08/2013 10:29:56 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: DoughtyOne

If the Soviet Union still existed, the real Mandela would have remained, but without his Communist backers, he had no choice but to adjust.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 10:30:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Huskrrrr
Gentle giants like Graham seldom receive their due. When asked why God had chosen him to lead millions to Christ he responded: “That will be my first question to God when I reach Heaven.”

In his new eternal home, Mandela posed a number of questions as well.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 10:32:13 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: EveningStar

“Where Mandela is ... is precisely where he belongs: in prison.”
William F. Buckley

I may re-subscribe to NR just so I can re-cancel my subscription.
If electricity comes from electrons, 21st century conservative morality must come from morons like Lowery & Co.


37 posted on 12/08/2013 10:32:46 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: EveningStar

National Review has drunk the kool aid too??!!

HHC’s husband


38 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:47 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: EveningStar

This goes beyond needing a barf alert. This out of a journal that bills itself as conservative no less. I think I’ll have to write my own “eulogy” later.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 10:39:33 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: EveningStar
White racism is held to be probably the greatest evil of our time

That line is one of the most sickening things I have ever laid eyes on. Whites have shed more of their own and their brothers' blood and given away their own treasure and lives, in the aggregate beyond anything we "owed" for our "sins". The white race has done nothing that every race in history hasn't done, we were simply the most successful in good and in bad. Our mistake has been in admitting it and trying to right the "sins" of the past, because forevermore our kindness will be mistaken for weakness. Actually, it's not even a mistake now-our kindness has turned into weakness. Blacks are still killing each other in Africa, and in America, and wherever they're in proximity to non-blacks, they kill them too, out of all proportion to their percentage of population. Anyplace they rule-even places which whites built into thriving, successful regions or entities-they destroy economically and culturally.

I feel like puking after reading that line, and puke on Mandela, Michael King, and whoever the third member of the "holy trinity" of blackness might be.
40 posted on 12/08/2013 10:40:20 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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