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Nelson Mandela, R.I.P. (National Review editorial)
National Review ^ | December 6, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by EveningStar

Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority. When George W. Bush awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2002, he said, “It is this moral stature that has made Nelson Mandela perhaps the most revered statesman of our time.” Bush could have done without the hedge word “perhaps.” Mandela was by far the most revered statesman of our time. Every July 18th is Nelson Mandela Day. The United Nations declared it so, in 2009. Mandela was born on July 18, 1918. Yesterday, the great man died at 95.

The reverence the world feels for him has to do, in part, with the nature of his adversary: the white, racist apartheid government of South Africa. A Havel or a Sharansky could not achieve equivalent stature: Hatred of their adversaries is far less universal. White racism is held to be probably the greatest evil of our time, and Mandela was a lion against it.

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1 posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority.

Sez who?

2 posted on 12/08/2013 9:27:47 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: EveningStar

Mandela the communist terrorist was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination.


3 posted on 12/08/2013 9:28:22 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: EveningStar
Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority

Is it due to his being a Communist Terrorist ?

4 posted on 12/08/2013 9:28:49 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: EveningStar

I wonder if Billy Graham will receive the accolades this commie is receiving. Franklin indicated his father’s health is steadily declining.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 9:29:41 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: EveningStar

here it says there is a stage 6 genocide in South Africa, mandela’s enduring legacy.

http://www.realnews24.com/genocide-watch-upgrades-south-africa-stage-6-preparation/

that is a genocide of whites in South Africa by a black government.

In South Africa many white women getting raped and tortured to death proof:
https://www.google.com/search?q=south+africa+rape+of+white+women&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8XCjUq08x9qRB6j1gOgP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=849&bih=465

Genocide Watch has been particularly concerned for over ten years at the hate crimes perpetrated against Boer farmers and other whites – bodies of murder victims dissembled and disfigured, old women raped in front of their husbands, and other strong evidence of racially targeted crimes. However, Genocide Watch had no evidence that the South African government was encouraging these crimes or that they were organised by an organised hate group.

Now Genocide Watch states that they have evidence of organised incitement to violence against white people. It began with the rise of Julias Malema, President of the African National Congress Youth League, who began singing the old anti Boer song: Kill the Boer” at rallies of the youth League, then called for expropriation of white owned lands while he was in Zimbabwe visiting Robert Mugabe, and has most recently called Botswana’s racially harmonious society “neo-colonial,” and has called for the over through of Botswana’s government. Genocide watch will not downgrade the situation to stage 5 until Malema steps down from government.


6 posted on 12/08/2013 9:30:36 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: EveningStar

When I learned he had croaked, I said “finally” - then I cracked a bottle of beer and opened a bag of Doritos.


7 posted on 12/08/2013 9:30:57 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: EveningStar

World-class barf alert needed for this article.


8 posted on 12/08/2013 9:35:12 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: EveningStar

Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority.

Is that among TERRORIST world leaders?


9 posted on 12/08/2013 9:35:17 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: EveningStar

First sentence- bull Obamastuff.


10 posted on 12/08/2013 9:36:01 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Democrat_media

Do you think it’ll improve without Mandala? His legacy just might be that things were better when he was alive.


11 posted on 12/08/2013 9:39:54 AM PST by grania (PP>)
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To: duckman

“I wonder if Billy Graham will receive the accolades this commie is receiving.”

Gentle giants like Graham seldom receive their due. When asked why God had chosen him to lead millions to Christ he responded: “That will be my first question to God when I reach Heaven.”


12 posted on 12/08/2013 9:47:25 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: WXRGina

‘NELSON MANDELA WAS A RADICAL MARXIST’

Renowned Christian minister: ‘He tried to destroy us, set his dogs on us’

12/7/2013

http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/nelson-mandela-was-a-radical-marxist/?cat_orig=world

Nelson Mandela was a radical Marxist and a firm advocate of abortion, pornography, homosexuality and legalizing prostitution, according to a prominent Christian missionary who was summoned to the home of the South African president.

Rev. Peter Hammond, founder of Frontline Fellowship and Africa Christian Nation, has worked for nearly 30 years helping persecuted Christians in Africa. As a result of Hammond’s visit with Mandela – in which the missionary laid hands on the president and prayed for him to see abortion for what it really is, the merciless slaughter of innocent human life – Hammond was subjected to a 13-year audit of his organization.

Don’t mourn for Mandela: Joseph Farah says man ‘wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman’
In 2010, Frontline released a set of two videos titled, “My Meeting with Nelson Mandela,” in which Hammond reveals the true character of the anti-apartheid revolutionary and recalls his visit with him at his home.

“I’m astounded that so many in the West idolize Mandela and lift him up as a messianic figure because they obviously don’t know what he teaches, what he believes or what he does – or his support for some of the most radical Marxist dictatorships on the planet with some of the worst human-rights records, such as the governments of Red China and Cuba,” Hammond declared. “He has supported these dictators wholeheartedly and received them with the greatest honors.”

Hammond said there are many Christians who idolize Mandela because they’ve been given false information about who the man really was.


13 posted on 12/08/2013 9:51:07 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: EveningStar

We live in a time when Political Correctness will not allow
any negative remarks be made against a black man.

Ask some former South Africans what they think of Mandela?

The man was a charlatan who lived a in time when the black man
is to be exalted.

He was a communist with ties to some of the most dangerous terrorist on the planet.

A sad commentary when a so-called conservative magazine
capitulates to Political Correctness.


14 posted on 12/08/2013 9:53:43 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: EveningStar

Oh Brother. They’re going to be puking blood over this terrorist for the next two weeks.


15 posted on 12/08/2013 9:57:09 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: grania

better how, from stage 6 genocide to stage 5?

those are real people getting tortured to death.

here it says there is a stage 6 genocide in South Africa, mandela’s enduring legacy.

http://www.realnews24.com/genocide-watch-upgrades-south-africa-stage-6-preparation/

that is a genocide of whites in South Africa by a black government.

In South Africa many white women getting raped and tortured to death proof:
https://www.google.com/search?q=south+africa+rape+of+white+women&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8XCjUq08x9qRB6j1gOgP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=849&bih=465

I hate Mandela, bill clinton, Obama, nancy pelosi , harry ried, fdr, woodrow wilson, jfk , all socialist scum


16 posted on 12/08/2013 9:58:23 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: EveningStar
White racism is held to be probably the greatest evil of our time, and Mandela was a lion against it. Nonsense. I'd probably call him the Michelin Man, due to his fondness for "necklacing". I will give Mandela credit where credit is due. Mandela never managed to kill as many as Stalin or Mao.
17 posted on 12/08/2013 10:00:30 AM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: Cyber Liberty
Oh Brother. They’re going to be puking blood over this terrorist for the next two weeks.

Don't mistake post-incarceration Mandela with pre-incarceration Mandela.
18 posted on 12/08/2013 10:00:37 AM PST by aruanan
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To: EveningStar

What a sorry, duplicitous article. Not worthy of the National Review.


19 posted on 12/08/2013 10:00:40 AM PST by mulligan
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To: EveningStar
National Review joining the line to fellate the corpse.

Glad I dropped my subscription.

20 posted on 12/08/2013 10:01:03 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: EveningStar

Mandela wanted to set off explosives in malls and schools to maim and kill as many women and children as he could. Fortunately he was caught. For some reason they imprisoned him instead if executing him.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 10:01:05 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: WXRGina
Mandela the communist terrorist was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes, but Mandela, the post-incarceration political figure, especially in contrast with our own president, was a great guy. He supported a constitution with checks and balances. He supported the rule of law. He did not do to South Africa what folks like Mugabe and Chavez (and Obama) did to their countries.
22 posted on 12/08/2013 10:04:17 AM PST by aruanan
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To: EveningStar

“Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority” —— Really? More than the Pope?


23 posted on 12/08/2013 10:04:37 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Lonely Are The Brave

The National Review is a worthless magazine now.
I am quite sure that William Buckley, and the National Review, supported Reagan’s policy of “Constructive Engagement” with South Africa. Basically, Reagan felt that imposing sanctions against Apartheid South Africa was counter-productive. He also knew that Mandela was a vicious communist and did not want to do anything that would strengthen the ANC. I think the Reagan policy was the correct one, of course.

ALL these supposedly conservative pundits praising Mandela makes me want to puke.


24 posted on 12/08/2013 10:05:23 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: EveningStar

“Among world leaders, Nelson Mandela had unmatched moral authority.”

So all you have to do to have “unmatched moral authority” is to put a tire full of gasoline around your opponents neck and murder them horribly?

I am glad we do not have many more people like that in this world.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 10:10:35 AM PST by Clay Moore ("In politics, stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Me thinks Nelson was just another Che.


26 posted on 12/08/2013 10:12:35 AM PST by V K Lee
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To: aruanan

I hear you. But, being a stickler for punishing law-breakers, I won’t do that. The dumb-azz press will, though.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 10:15:37 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Lonely Are The Brave
Absolutely. Too quick to excuse his past and in fact, his continued associations.

And almost completely dismissing his legacy, which is the present state of South Africa. I guess because (so far) they have only killed off about 10% of the whites.

28 posted on 12/08/2013 10:17:36 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: EveningStar




The following are the charming words of an ANC song which Nelson Mandela took pride in singing:

Ayasaba amagwala
Awudubule (i)bhunu
Ziyarobha le zintsha
Awudubule (i)bhunu


They are scared the cowards
Do shoot the/a farmer (Boer)
They rob us, these dogs
Do shoot the/a farmer (Boer)
29 posted on 12/08/2013 10:17:41 AM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Clay Moore
So all you have to do to have “unmatched moral authority” is to put a tire full of gasoline around your opponents neck and murder them horribly?

I call him "Michelin Mandela"

30 posted on 12/08/2013 10:21:41 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: EveningStar

Madela was part and parcel a fictitious construct of the imagination of the self-assessed enlightened and guilt ridden Leftist Western people.

He was a terrorist. His bombs destroyed innocent people. Men, women, children..., guilty of anything or not, they were his targets if he could spread terror and move public policy.

He was caught. He was sent to prison. He remained in prison. He was a danger to society.

South Africa is not better off today for him having come to power. It is by far worse off. The life of the average African national hasn’t improved. Whites are in worse shape too. Radical elements prosper. Crime flourishes. Government insiders support racially motivated violence.

Mandela became a figurehead. He was the darling of the Left. Never ones to actually “THINK” about what might happen, they always become enthralled with an individual, then push them despite the obvious danger ahead. Sadly people on the right join in too, because they want to be seen as caring, respectful of “politically correct” people and things they do. They join the Left to ignore the ramifications, and soil themselves by so doing.

Bush jumps on board. He has convinced himself that Mandela was the best thing that ever happened to South Africa. And what of the victims of the violence in South Africa? What about the governmental and social decay down there? What about the plight of the average man on the street, be they African or White? Who cares? They’re wrapped up in the beauty of the moment.

Those who supported Mandela and now mourn his loss, need to do a lot of soul searching. They should ask themselves these questions:

1. If someone bombed their local supermarket and killed members of their family and friends just to make a political statement, should they be revered, heralded, and supported to head up the government?

2. Should they be lauded decades on end, forgetting what they had done?

3. Should their family members be able to utilize “The Necklace” to kill Africans?

4. Should it matter if government and society decays once they are in power?

5. If they support despicable Marxist governments that destroy their own people on a whim, should they continue to be thought of as a great person?

6. Should our children be worshiping these sorts of men?

7. Should our society as a whole support these men?

The West should be ashamed of itself for buying into the Mandela myth. You sometimes see towns hoodwinked by such a man. You sometimes see states taken over by one, and fooled. Sometimes a nation can be taken over by one. Today we see evidence that the world was fooled by one such man.

Nelson Mandela should have been executed for his crimes.

He is no global hero, unless you like indiscriminate killers whose wives have placed tired around the necks of her political enemies, poured gasoline on them, and set them on fire.

Mandela didn’t die this week.

The real Mandela died decades ago, so that an imposter could take over a nation and hoodwink an ignorant global populace.


31 posted on 12/08/2013 10:22:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Mandela and the whole anti-apartheid movement were devised by the Left (with the encouragement of the Soviet government), as a way to counter Reagan and Thatcher’s emphasis on the Soviet Union as the center of evil in the world.


32 posted on 12/08/2013 10:25:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I know our Left went for it lock stock and barrel. I’m sure the Soviets were thrilled with it. Birds of a feather and all...


33 posted on 12/08/2013 10:28:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: V K Lee
123 Golden Cage Mandela's "golden cage" is in sharp contrast with the treatment given by his comrade, Fidel Castro, to Cuban political prisoners.
34 posted on 12/08/2013 10:29:56 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: DoughtyOne

If the Soviet Union still existed, the real Mandela would have remained, but without his Communist backers, he had no choice but to adjust.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 10:30:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Huskrrrr
Gentle giants like Graham seldom receive their due. When asked why God had chosen him to lead millions to Christ he responded: “That will be my first question to God when I reach Heaven.”

In his new eternal home, Mandela posed a number of questions as well.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 10:32:13 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: EveningStar

“Where Mandela is ... is precisely where he belongs: in prison.”
William F. Buckley

I may re-subscribe to NR just so I can re-cancel my subscription.
If electricity comes from electrons, 21st century conservative morality must come from morons like Lowery & Co.


37 posted on 12/08/2013 10:32:46 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: EveningStar

National Review has drunk the kool aid too??!!

HHC’s husband


38 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:47 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: EveningStar

This goes beyond needing a barf alert. This out of a journal that bills itself as conservative no less. I think I’ll have to write my own “eulogy” later.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 10:39:33 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: EveningStar
White racism is held to be probably the greatest evil of our time

That line is one of the most sickening things I have ever laid eyes on. Whites have shed more of their own and their brothers' blood and given away their own treasure and lives, in the aggregate beyond anything we "owed" for our "sins". The white race has done nothing that every race in history hasn't done, we were simply the most successful in good and in bad. Our mistake has been in admitting it and trying to right the "sins" of the past, because forevermore our kindness will be mistaken for weakness. Actually, it's not even a mistake now-our kindness has turned into weakness. Blacks are still killing each other in Africa, and in America, and wherever they're in proximity to non-blacks, they kill them too, out of all proportion to their percentage of population. Anyplace they rule-even places which whites built into thriving, successful regions or entities-they destroy economically and culturally.

I feel like puking after reading that line, and puke on Mandela, Michael King, and whoever the third member of the "holy trinity" of blackness might be.
40 posted on 12/08/2013 10:40:20 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: EveningStar

I stopped at the first line.

This guy was the Ossama bin Laden of the 80’s

Ask the Zulu’s who were butchered with machetes and necklaced if they think Mandela has “moral authority”


41 posted on 12/08/2013 10:41:23 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: tumblindice

I realised before “the firing” that NR was turning into a Gop-e pukefest, but the firing of Derbyshire for telling the truth sourced with statistics and links ensured that I’d never click on a link to them again. Thank God they never got a red cent from me.


42 posted on 12/08/2013 10:43:22 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Sez who?”

The PC clowns who currently occupy the once valuable National Review


43 posted on 12/08/2013 10:45:15 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: EveningStar
National Review should just shut down. It has lost any decency and respect it ever deserved.
44 posted on 12/08/2013 10:47:34 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Democrat_media

“However, Genocide Watch had no evidence that the South African government was encouraging these crimes or that they were organised by an organised hate group.”

Not even when Mandela sings “Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer”??


45 posted on 12/08/2013 10:49:29 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EveningStar

He was pro-abortion.

I conclude from this editorial that National Review is now officially pro-abortion.

You can’t be “pro-life” and praise a pro-abort as having “moral authority.”


46 posted on 12/08/2013 10:50:19 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: aruanan

Same man, He never changed, just changed tactics.

In prison he refused to ever renounce violence.


47 posted on 12/08/2013 10:50:40 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EveningStar
Nelson Mandela, R.I.P. G.F.R, R.I.H

There, fixed it. For reference:

Mandela was pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and a high-ranking communist

48 posted on 12/08/2013 10:54:43 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: dfwgator
Mandela and the whole anti-apartheid movement were devised by the Left (with the encouragement of the Soviet government), as a way to counter Reagan and Thatcher’s emphasis on the Soviet Union as the center of evil in the world.

So Mandela and his supporters had no real reasons to oppose apartheid?

49 posted on 12/08/2013 10:55:11 AM PST by x
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To: x
The point being that was the reason that South Africa became the cause celebre of the Left in the 80s....Never mind the fact that throughout the entire African continent, black tribes did much worse to each other.
50 posted on 12/08/2013 10:57:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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