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A conspiracy so vast: it's not just the NSA, now the FBI, local police also spying on US citizens
Fox News ^ | December 12, 2013 | Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

Posted on 12/13/2013 3:34:33 AM PST by kobald

Readers of this page are well aware of the revelations during the past six months of spying by the National Security Agency (NSA). Edward Snowden, a former employee of an NSA vendor, risked his life and liberty to inform us of a governmental conspiracy to violate our right to privacy, a right guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment.

The conspiracy he revealed is vast. It involves former President George W. Bush, President Obama and their aides, a dozen or so members of Congress, federal judges, executives and technicians at American computer servers and telecoms, and the thousands of NSA employees and vendors who have manipulated their fellow conspirators. The conspirators all agreed that it would be a crime for any of them to reveal the conspiracy. Snowden violated that agreement in order to uphold his higher oath to defend the Constitution...

Earlier this week, The Washington Post reported that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is now spying on us. It seems that the FBI, no doubt jealous of the unpunished lawlessness of the NSA, has acquired software that permits it to utilize the tiny cameras in many home computers to observe whoever or whatever may be in front of the computer screen.

The FBI doesn’t only look at whoever is using the computer screen; it also captures the words and images on the screen...

The Washington Post also reported this week that local cops, too, are jealous of the NSA and its ability to break the law with impunity. In an effort to catch bad guys, local police in half a dozen American cities have begun to ask local telecom providers for a “tower dump.” A tower dump consists of digital recordings of all cell phone usage from a given cell tower...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; conspiracy; nsa; tyranny
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Remember when "1984" was about the Soviet Union and stuff like this was the realm of tinfoil-hat crackpots?
1 posted on 12/13/2013 3:34:33 AM PST by kobald
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A conspiracy so vast: it's not just the NSA, now the FBI, local police also spying on US citizens

More proof that US citizens are the most free people on earth...........

2 posted on 12/13/2013 3:50:56 AM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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Gee, I feel so much more safe now.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 3:51:15 AM PST by RC one
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The ladies in my office just discovered our boss is recording phone conversations without our knowledge, a jail-able felony.

He can go ahead and tear up my non-compete agreement when I quit.


4 posted on 12/13/2013 3:54:43 AM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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Around eight years ago, near the town where I grew up in Alabama...the local one-man cop office got a Homeland Security grant. He didn’t tell the mayor or town council about the application. The grant was to pay for a set of night-vision goggles. Figure somewhere in the $10k range for this. The grant arrived, and he bought it via a cop catalog. For several weeks....he takes them out with him on patrol.

One day, the mayor sees him along some bad road of town....surveilling some local farmer’s property. Where’d the night-vision goggles come from? The whole story is told. The next week....the council met, and ordered him to sell the goggles. The event got out over the next month and everyone in town was disturbed over his surveillance tactics.

I’d take a guess....that twenty thousand grants a year ends up approved by Homeland Security like this. No city council is ever notified, and few ever know about the application or it’s approval. We’ve opened up a box of trouble....if you ask me.


5 posted on 12/13/2013 4:09:48 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: EricT.

There’s probably an NDA agreement giving the employer that right. It’s much worse at my work place but at least they let us know about it.


6 posted on 12/13/2013 4:13:37 AM PST by Justa
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It’s rarely brought up but actually the British do the most spying on Americans. There is a longstanding legal agreement that our government spys on British citizens in detail and Britain has special access to our internet and telecom equipment to spy on us. The spying is normally just for national security purposes rather than criminal investigations but the British Crown knows absolutely everything about you since you were born. If a James Bond type shows up someday, you’re officially about to die.


7 posted on 12/13/2013 4:13:59 AM PST by Reeses
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I work in a prison. I pretty much expect to be surveilled while at work. I do, however get pissed off when the unelected take it upon themselves to infringe my rights barring some clear legal premise to do so.

CC

8 posted on 12/13/2013 4:25:15 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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“There’s probably an NDA agreement giving the employer that right.”

If it is criminal because they never advised him, then I can’t see how an NDA would be valid cover. You can’t simply sign a waiver to allow any kind of criminal activity against you. It would have no validity - like the guy with the homemade “stab-proof” vest that invited his buddy to test it. He’s going to jail regardless for almost killing him.


9 posted on 12/13/2013 4:29:40 AM PST by expat1000
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“The object of the conspiracy is to emasculate all Americans and many foreigners of their right to privacy in order to predict our behavior and make it easier to find among us those who are planning harm.”

I disagree. The object of the conspiracy is to obtain information to use as leverage (aka Blackmail) if the citizen, Senator, Congressman, business executive, conservative leader, etc. gets out of line and begins to challenge the regime. At that point in time, the hammer comes down, and it is time for them to sit down and shut up! It is clear to me why we have a Congress with no backbone, they are held in check by the personal information contained in their individual files, obtained by this lawless surveillance.

10 posted on 12/13/2013 4:38:28 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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I believe that is going on at my work as well, and that our conference rooms are bugged. When my colleagues and I need to discuss something, we take a walk around the building. Sometimes it feels like we live and work in a Soviet-style state, “The Lives of Others” existence. Paranoid “leadership.” It’s depressing.


11 posted on 12/13/2013 4:39:34 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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I wonder when the FBI (a self-tarnish organization) and NSA will outsource their spying to the Norks? Yeah, they know how to spy.


12 posted on 12/13/2013 4:52:37 AM PST by healy61
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self important little pervs


13 posted on 12/13/2013 4:57:47 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Remember when "1984" was about the Soviet Union and stuff like this was the realm of tinfoil-hat crackpots?

Sadly, yes.

It's almost like the ruling elite read it as an aspirational work.

It seems like the only thing that is missing is the Junior Anti-Sex League. For some reason, socialists of that era were worried that puritans would attempt to use the State to propagandize against sex.

14 posted on 12/13/2013 5:18:24 AM PST by Skepolitic
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So do the Israelis. I was amazed how much they knew about me during my interrogation prior to my first El Al flight.


15 posted on 12/13/2013 5:22:00 AM PST by Skepolitic
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Sham democracy —a country secretly OCCUPIED.


16 posted on 12/13/2013 5:25:31 AM PST by gaijin
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Welcome to the USSA. Now, shut up and be a good comrade, or your brat kid won’t get her operation!


17 posted on 12/13/2013 5:31:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Retailers Hide Facial Recognition Cameras In Mannequins’ Eyes To Track Shoppers...
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/12/11/retailers-go-high-tech-to-track-shoppers/


18 posted on 12/13/2013 5:32:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: expat1000

It’s not criminal offense because it’s the employer’s phones and the employees likely signed off on it. It’s often called a consent to monitoring agreement and is a requirement for employment at many locations. I’m fairly certain a review of the employment documents they’ve signed will have it.

If they’ve signed a consent form it’s not illegal. They’ve acknowledged and agreed to being monitored. In fact some consent to monitoring agreements even apply to employees’ non-employment communications, i.e., their personal home phones, computers -all their personal communication mediums, all the time, at home or abroad, for the duration of their employment.


19 posted on 12/13/2013 5:33:41 AM PST by Justa
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20 posted on 12/13/2013 5:34:23 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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