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Stephen A. Smith: Ostracizing Black Conservatives "Makes Absolutely No Sense Whatsoever"
RealClearPolitics ^ | December 15, 2013 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 12/15/2013 1:40:22 PM PST by i88schwartz

STEPHEN A. SMITH: I have profound respect for the iconic figure that is Jim Brown, what he's done in the sports world, the political conscience that is attached to him. But what he said, I deem inappropriate. I thought it was wrong, and more importantly, I thought it highlighted something, Skip, that I told you many, many years ago -- I mean many shows ago. Actually, not that many shows ago.

When it comes to the African-American community, you have a plethora of individuals. For example, the black population hasn't given the Republican Party more than 15% of its vote since 1964. And anybody who is deemed a black conservative, I am not one of them -- I'm a registered Independent, just to get that out of the way -- but those that I know who are black conservatives are considered pariahs and are ostracized in our communities and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. MORE...

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KEYWORDS: blackconservatives; stephenasmith

1 posted on 12/15/2013 1:40:22 PM PST by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

If you realize that the most Racist community in the USA is the Black Community, then it makes perfect sense.


2 posted on 12/15/2013 1:42:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: i88schwartz

what did jim brown say?


3 posted on 12/15/2013 1:47:01 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

He said some things about Kobe Bryant since he didnt grow up in Philly, he grew up in Italy, that he was not “ Really black” because he did not grow up in the black community til later on in his life


4 posted on 12/15/2013 1:53:03 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: i88schwartz

It’s a form of tribalism: a pack instict which liberals say they’ve “moved beyond”. If you’re not one of them, you lose your minority status and your value as a human being. You’re now part of the enemy, the rivaling tribe and any action against you is justified. For now, that mostly includes slander.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 1:53:56 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: i88schwartz

I’m confused, Steven A. Smith was calm.


6 posted on 12/15/2013 1:58:17 PM PST by EEGator
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To: i88schwartz

It’s a profound truth, but slavery has not ended.

For many years, I stated that it had. And in the conventional sense it did end. Digging deeper, there is another truth needing to be understood.

There is a segment of the African American society, that needs slavery to exist. To these people, slavery does still exist. They blame the problems in their life on the government, White people, the local Korean food mart owner, or anyone else they can, so as to not have to take ownership of their own failed lives.

This self-induced slavery starts for many African Americans as they move off toward school. The sweet little guys who were friendly with everyone, soon are told why they shouldn’t be so friendly to ‘some people.’ And then that is accepted, becomes part of their belief system, and the downward spiral bursts forth from there.

No need to study, the man will keep you down. No need to better yourself, no guys stick around to support a family anyway. No need to support yourself, because welfare has become the accepted payback for what was done to the African Americans during slavery and beyond. Besides, some guys are making a bundle out of drugs and crime.

And then when you’ve taken a pass on bettering yourself when you were a kid, you can’t support yourself in a normal sense ever. Many think sports or music will bring them the riches. It seldom does. Most folks are average, and only the above average can make it in sports or music, sometimes not even then.

So they settle on crime as a way of life. They gun each other down. They kill and are killed. They hate and don’t have the slightest idea that those they hate, generally want nothing less for them than to be successful, but they can’t do it.

The slaves of today must incorporate a work ethic into their daily lives early on, because nobody can make them successful. Only they can do it.

Of course that’s unless you are one in hundreds of millions of African Americans that get picked out of the group early on, and are gifted with the presidency despite never having done anything whatsoever to earn it on their own.

And even in this, success is elusive, because an empty vessel cannot deliver fine wine unless you really are a god, and don’t just think of yourself as one.


7 posted on 12/15/2013 2:00:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: i88schwartz

It’s not about skin color, its about ideology


8 posted on 12/15/2013 2:03:58 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EEGator; i88schwartz

Stephen A Smith sometimes goes on Mark Levin’s show and unlike his ESPN rants, he’s actually calm in explaining conservative concepts. Stephen stated on the show that he also listens to Limbaugh which should have gotten him fired from obama ass-kissing ESPN.


9 posted on 12/15/2013 2:05:24 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Not exactly. More that Kobe wasn’t raised in America so Kobe doesn’t think like an American.

Sounds a lot like a certain major political figure, IMO.


10 posted on 12/15/2013 2:07:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: EEGator
I’m confused, Steven A. Smith was calm.

You didn't read it LOUD enough.

};^)

11 posted on 12/15/2013 2:10:30 PM PST by Roccus
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To: max americana

Interesting, thanks for the heads up.

My previous post was meant to be fun, just in case it seemed otherwise.

I’m glad he stood up and said what he did. He’ll take some serious crap for it.


12 posted on 12/15/2013 2:11:19 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Roccus

My bad. :)


13 posted on 12/15/2013 2:15:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: BenLurkin

I googled him. He was born in Philly, lived in Italy with his family from the age of 6 until 13, spending summers in the US. Went to hs in the US. I’d say the guy is pretty American, just because he had a broader life experience than most people doesn’t mean he didn’t also have a “typical” American life experience.

What would one say about a person whose parents were in the military?

no Kobe Bryant fan, but this seems a silly thing to criticize him about and no, I don’t see him as comparable to Obama. As far as I know Kobe Bryant isn’t trying to destroy America.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 2:18:54 PM PST by jocon307
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To: EEGator

Remember Chris Broussard who came out as Christian said he didn’t believe in gays with the Jason Collins issue? He’s another black reporter from ESPN who doesn’t play the ESPN lefty line and was also on Levin’s show.


15 posted on 12/15/2013 2:18:59 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: jocon307

It’s OK.

I’m not a particular fan of Jim Brown either.


16 posted on 12/15/2013 2:22:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: i88schwartz

The 800-word letter to Holmgren used the word “monkey” multiple times, depicting how Brown feels he is being viewed by the team president. The nine-time Pro Bowler concluded his letter with references to a purported slave owner who attempted to pit slaves against one another, a folk-type African-American dance and insinuated that he must stand up for himself while defending his manhood.

“There’s only one thing that I control in life, and that’s being a man,” concluded Brown. ”So let me end with a little humor, because as you say, one monkey don’t stop the show, and as I say “Willie Lynch missed a few of us”, and there will be no Buck Dancing.”

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2010/08/jim-browns-letter-claims-browns-wanted-him-to-be-a-mascot-injects-racial-undertones/


17 posted on 12/15/2013 2:33:52 PM PST by kcvl
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To: i88schwartz

But for all Brown’s good deeds and athletic prowess, there appears to be a dark side to him as well. He has been frequently accused of violent crimes, primarily toward women.

An 18-year-old accused Brown of forcing her to have sex after giving her whisky, but a jury found him innocent of assault and battery in the 10-day trial in 1965. He was accused of throwing his girlfriend from a balcony in 1968, but when the 22-year-old woman refused to name Brown as her assailant, the charge of assault with intent to murder was dropped. He was fined $300 for resisting a deputy.

Brown was acquitted of assaulting a man after a traffic accident in 1969. He was fined $500 and spent a day in jail after beating up a golfing partner in 1978. He was charged with rape, sexual battery and assault in 1985, but the charges were dropped when the 33-year-old woman gave inconsistent testimony.

The next year, he was arrested for allegedly beating his fiancée after accusing her of flirting. He spent three hours in jail, but three days later the 21-year-old woman said she didn’t want to prosecute.

In October 1999, Brown was convicted in Los Angeles of smashing the window of his 25-year-old wife Monique’s car, but was acquitted of making terrorist threats against her. The judge sentenced him to three years’ probation, stripped him of his driver’s license for a year, fined him $1,700 to be paid to a battered woman’s shelter and a domestic abuse fund, and ordered him to attend special counseling for domestic batterers.

When Brown refused counseling, he was given a six-month sentence. He was released from jail in Ventura County (California) in July 2002 after serving less than four months.

http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Brown_Jim.html


18 posted on 12/15/2013 2:44:04 PM PST by kcvl
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To: i88schwartz
Jim Brown quote: A liberal will cut off your leg so he can hand you a crutch.
19 posted on 12/15/2013 2:49:19 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: freedumb2003

You got it. They hate all non-blacks and black conservatives. (Yes, white libs, they hate you, too. All you are good for is getting them handouts. Just take a walk in the hood and see how it goes.) That’s a lot of people.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 2:49:59 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: i88schwartz

Well, Stephen, the Republican Party seeks to ostracize white conservatives too. It’s an Affirmative Action hater.


21 posted on 12/15/2013 2:50:55 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: i88schwartz

Jim Brown was treated as a god on the Long Island and at Syracuse U. He’s
Just paying at being a aggrieved negro.


22 posted on 12/15/2013 2:54:38 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: max americana

I had not seen/read about that. (I do remember the guy coming out though) I used to be quite the sports nut, not so much anymore. I’ll check out the story you referred to.


23 posted on 12/15/2013 3:11:35 PM PST by EEGator
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To: i88schwartz

Stephen Smith is alright. Don’t always agree with him, but he thinks for himself.


24 posted on 12/15/2013 3:57:50 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: i88schwartz

yea...he is really an indy..uh huh


25 posted on 12/15/2013 5:54:22 PM PST by trustnooneever
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
When it comes to the African-American community, you have a plethora of individuals. For example, the black population hasn't given the Republican Party more than 15% of its vote since 1964. And anybody who is deemed a black conservative, I am not one of them -- I'm a registered Independent, just to get that out of the way -- but those that I know who are black conservatives are considered pariahs and are ostracized in our communities and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Thanks i88schwartz.
26 posted on 12/15/2013 5:59:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
He said some things about Kobe Bryant since he didnt grow up in Philly, he grew up in Italy, that he was not “ Really black” because he did not grow up in the black community til later on in his life

He can say the exact same thing about Obama, but the problem for Jim Brown is he's just another Obama knee-pad wearing supporter.

That makes him a HYPOCRITE.

27 posted on 12/15/2013 6:04:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: KC_Conspirator
Stephen Smith is alright. Don’t always agree with him, but he thinks for himself.

I don't much care for his sports commentary, too much of a "remember when I said" and "I told you so" kinda guy.

On this topic though, I'm glad he's speaking out. He's about to get pilloried by his own, but hey .....

28 posted on 12/15/2013 6:06:02 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: God luvs America

He said he banged Gloria Steinem

And he did

Can u imagine


29 posted on 12/15/2013 6:07:43 PM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
He said some things about Kobe Bryant since he didnt grow up in Philly, he grew up in Italy, that he was not “ Really black” because he did not grow up in the black community til later on in his life.

Did Jim Brown support Obama, and if so, why, if Obama isn't 'really black'. Brown's comments about Kobe describe Obama perfectly. Obama grew up in a middle class white life, and I don't think he had any experience of the 'black community' until he began his community organizing days.

30 posted on 12/15/2013 6:16:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: God luvs America; GOPsterinMA; GeronL; darkangel82; Bender2; NFHale; BeadCounter; dfwgator; ...

Brown went off on Kobe (apropos of nothing) for not representin’! and doing the Black power salute like he did back in the day. He thinks Black stars owe it to the world to be left-wing rabble rousers.

GREAT player, passable actor (”Mars Attacks”), commie who hates White people. He did say Obama is “in over his head” so he’s not completely out of his mind.

I think even he managed to lose a lot of respect because of this. He also dredged up that Kobe V. Shaq crap that nobody wants to hear about anymore.

Stephen A. Smith isn’t that politically bright but he’s better than most sports talking heads who choose to spout off about politics, especially considering he’s Black, no reflexive hate towards Republicans.


31 posted on 12/16/2013 11:50:37 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
"You stay here, Mary... I'll go see what this is all about."

"I tell ya, Mr. Larry, that Jim Brown... is just plumb crazy!"

32 posted on 12/17/2013 12:33:14 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Impy; GeronL; darkangel82; Bender2; NFHale; BeadCounter; dfwgator

Jim Brown: Overall, he’s weird.

Stephen A. Smith: Agree with your assessment; loves to hear himself talk.

Kobe V. Shaq: Really, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQxB5IoLnE


33 posted on 12/17/2013 8:08:31 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Impy

That’s a good analysis, Stephen A. Smith is “okay” to listen to, he thinks.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 9:03:42 AM PST by BeadCounter
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