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Could a State make calling someone 'Homophobic' a Hate Crime? (Like using the 'N' word)
21 Dec 2013

Posted on 12/21/2013 1:00:19 PM PST by 11th_VA

So the question is, could a State make calling someone 'Homophobic' a Hate Crime? (Like using the 'N' word). I just read that Scotty person use that word in an article. It offends me. Could a State make the 'H' word equivalent to the 'N' word ???

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1 posted on 12/21/2013 1:00:19 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

The “H’s” will try.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 1:01:39 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: 11th_VA

I can’t see how it could be unconstitutional to do so, since we already do have words like the N-word considered hate crimes.

Alabama should try it. No judges in the state are likely to hear challenges.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 1:03:17 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 11th_VA

It’s not illegal to use the N word.

Not very nice, but not illegal.


4 posted on 12/21/2013 1:03:56 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: 11th_VA

But the “N” word is not always a hate crime as such.

Certain people are allowed to use the N word with impunity, and call each other by that word. It’s only certain others of us who are banned from using said word.

And, one can use the N word, such as it is used in rap videos, as an artistic expression.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 1:04:30 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 11th_VA
Could a State make the 'H' word equivalent to the 'N' word ???

Nigga PLEASE! Don't act a homo.

6 posted on 12/21/2013 1:10:04 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: 11th_VA

can I say bone smuggler? turd burglar? light in the loafers? pitchers and catchers? playing for the other team? faggots? queers?

the problem is just so many ways to say it.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 1:11:12 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 11th_VA

Homophobic is being used to describe anyone who doesn’t enthusiastically embrace the “gay” agenda and lifestyle. “Homophobia” is associated with irrational fear and hatred. Yet the news media—itself riddled with rump rangers and trouser pilots—paints at least 48 percent of the U.S. population with this brush.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 1:11:18 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 11th_VA
What is the PC term?

9 posted on 12/21/2013 1:11:33 PM PST by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 11th_VA
i don't know a single person who's afraid of faggots...
10 posted on 12/21/2013 1:12:12 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 11th_VA

Homophobes would be able to call one another that with impunity. But if you’re not down with the homophobes, then you’re a hater.

Haters gotta hate. But don’t you be hatin’ homophobes.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 1:14:25 PM PST by marron
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Certain people are allowed to use the N word with impunity, and call each other by that word. It’s only certain others of us who are banned from using said word.”

Yeah, if you are a “Holder’s Person,” it’s part of your vocabulary and perfectly o.k.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 1:15:34 PM PST by vette6387
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To: 11th_VA
I'll be happy to have anyone call me homophobic!!! Wear it as a badge of honor!!!
13 posted on 12/21/2013 1:18:02 PM PST by dalereed
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To: 11th_VA

When all this crap started, the “hate crime” was a charge ADDED to a criminal charge. There was murder, and there was the hate crime. Two charges. It made the penalties worse.

Now, there doesn’t need to be a real crime for the charge of a “hate crime.” Just a word, spoken or written.

In a once-sane past, the only actionless words that led to a charge of crime were:
- lying to law enforcement
- crying ‘fire’ in a crowded theater
- threatening someone with violence
Now, no action is needed.

If you are accused of saying something, you can’t prove that you DIDN’T say it. So you are always guilty, and you have no recourse.

All this was foreseen and therefore intended by the makers of the law.


14 posted on 12/21/2013 1:20:18 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: 11th_VA

The very existence of “hate crime” laws was for the purpose of attacking the Constitution. Start with the Fourteenth Amendment (especially the “equal protection of the laws” clause, since “hate crime/speech” laws create automatic inequality via “protected” groups) and continue from there.


15 posted on 12/21/2013 1:24:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 11th_VA

Geez, this is getting ridiculous. Whatever happened to, “sticks and stones...”?


16 posted on 12/21/2013 1:26:02 PM PST by mtrott
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To: 11th_VA

Sure. The kakistocrats can make anything they want a crime. And generally will.

I fear you’re missing the point that I learned while overseas: passing a law is one thing, securing it’s enforcement or garnering obedience is quite another.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 1:29:14 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Getting some small say in who will get to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: 11th_VA

Best defense is the difference between fear and disgust.

I’m under no obligation to endorse any behavior.


18 posted on 12/21/2013 1:30:15 PM PST by G Larry
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To: 11th_VA

As I understand it, the N word is not a hate crime unless used aainst someone in the commission of a crime such as assault, murder etc. It is OK to play knockout with Whitey, just as Get Whitey, White bread, Honky etc is A-OK in any context. It is only when the MSN publishes the race of the vistims that it may or not be a hate crime or may not be published. Same gobblydgook as they use.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 1:33:56 PM PST by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. The Tea Party is the solvent)
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To: 11th_VA

Using the word “nigger” is a hate crime? Where?


20 posted on 12/21/2013 1:36:37 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 11th_VA

The answer to the question is “yes” provided the people have been properly softened up via the sort of PC brow beating that the Duck guy was subjected to. The govt can then rise to “protect”.


21 posted on 12/21/2013 2:15:13 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: 11th_VA

It is time that John Q Public began fighting back against this PC nonsense.


22 posted on 12/21/2013 2:15:25 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: humblegunner

Nigga PLEASE! Don’t act a homo.

LOL! (Seriously!)


23 posted on 12/21/2013 2:16:11 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: 11th_VA

“Homophobia” is actually am inaccurate term, since it implies “fear.

There is not a homosexual on the planet that I fear.

A more accurate term would be “homosexually misanthropic”.


24 posted on 12/21/2013 4:02:07 PM PST by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of our enslavement"--JimRob)
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To: 11th_VA

How about making the word “racist” a hate crime? I like that idea.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 4:10:54 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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We’re our way to becoming a contry of phobephobes.


26 posted on 12/21/2013 9:29:14 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

heterophobes and hoplophobes are destroying our nation!


27 posted on 12/22/2013 1:32:20 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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