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The next Detroit? Atlantic City and Las Vegas facing catastrophic collapse
MyFox NY ^ | 12-22-13 | Israel Joffe

Posted on 12/22/2013 4:40:30 PM PST by RKBA Democrat

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To: cripplecreek

I was amazed in Ohio when they ran the campaign to “legalize gambling” that their campaign was pretty much that adults should be able to gamble if they want to, and they don’t need a bunch of religious prudes telling them they can’t.

By “legalized” they meant giving 3 or 4 rich businesses the right to build casinos in our 3 or 4 largest cities.

When clear-thinking people tried to say, “OK, then let’s legalize adult gambling!” the media shills and plants for the state and the casinos went ballistic. Advocates of true legalized gambling were — this is the truth — called “anti-gambling pro-nanny staters.”


41 posted on 12/22/2013 6:00:49 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: KC_Lion

Nice pic of Las Vegas


42 posted on 12/22/2013 6:01:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SamAdams76

Agree with your observations. I don’t see Vegas going belly up either. Even though I didn’t enjoy my last trip much, it was packed with people. Next time I go I’ll make it a point to get off the Strip and explore a bit more.


43 posted on 12/22/2013 6:07:46 PM PST by rbg81
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To: xzins

I have no use for the casinos here in Michigan either. They’re nothing but a source of lobbying money to crush the little guys. They were the primary source of money pushing for our smoking ban in bars yet made sure the law excluded businesses over 10,000 square feet.


44 posted on 12/22/2013 6:10:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Wuli
There were many factors in Atlantic City’s decline. I do not that travel by airlines was one of them.

The basic idea behind Atlantic City -- "Luxury casino resort and crime-infested urban slum, on the same island" hasn't worked anywhere, AFAIK. The only real solution to Atlantic City's problems is Reese Palley's -- bulldoze it, and start it over.

45 posted on 12/22/2013 6:14:09 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Over the years, we would say “hey, we haven’t been to Atlantic City in a really long while”, forgetting why, and on the next good weekend we head down to Atlantic City for the day.

Then, during the course of our visit, increasingly as the day went on, we’d rediscover that we really did not like Atlantic City at all, and we’d leave shortly thereafter.

Why we got “Atlantic City amnesia” from time to time, for a number of times (but no more) I never figured out, but eventually it stopped and we remembered not to go again, not to experience the same disappointment we always felt on our trips there.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 6:17:45 PM PST by Wuli
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To: cripplecreek
made sure the law excluded businesses over 10,000 square feet.

The hypocrisy of politicians is stunning, and it's out in the wide open for people to see, but they go on voting with these idiotic ideas anyway. I'm at the point where "they get what they deserve" is really my thinking.

In Ohio you can't smoke in bars, but you can in private clubs. I expected the bars to rebrand as clubs with open enrollment. I haven't really monitored it.

At the little place my son used to play music, they enclosed their porch, added heat, and now "going outside to smoke" is simply going to "the porch". I have no idea why that passes muster, but it does.

47 posted on 12/22/2013 6:19:08 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

I’ve always thought that if I went to Las Vegas, I would be struck by lightning. It just seems like a city that celebrates sin. Not that I am against gambling per se, but everything about Las Vegas seems to promote sin of one type or another.


48 posted on 12/22/2013 6:34:27 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: RKBA Democrat

Well, Nevadans, looks like ol’ Harry ain’t gonna’ be able to help you.


49 posted on 12/22/2013 6:35:11 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cherry

“I’ve always said the way to destroy the billion dollar indian casino tax dodge is to have govt casinos everywhere”

That’s another reason why the best bands you thought were extinct show up at big Indian casinos. I saw Pat benatar, Journey, Psychedelic Furs, Chicago etc at the Indian casinos in Socal no joke. From what was told to me, there is a tax loophole for artists to perform so they’re not embarrassed at all about the venue.


50 posted on 12/22/2013 6:36:49 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Winthrop Rockefeller, one of the first RINOs, closed down Hot Springs.


51 posted on 12/22/2013 6:36:59 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: rbg81

Vegas won’t shut down, but the casinos will rotate.

I love Wynn’s Encore. Clean, classy and hot waitresses.


52 posted on 12/22/2013 6:43:46 PM PST by Loud Mime (Living Orwell's nightmare)
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To: dfwgator
Crime is worse in Las Vegas these days. At one time, you could roam around the Strip in the wee hours of the morning and feel very safe. But the gangstas are shooting up the place now.
53 posted on 12/22/2013 6:45:48 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Fast Moving Angel
I don't like LV.

I thought I was the only one. Probably it's all the racket and flashing lights -- can only take so much of that.

I went to Vegas about 8 years ago.

I used to go on a ski trip every year. I got a connecting flight into Vegas at the same price as a direct. A hotel one block off the strip for $35. I had The Excalibur right across the street. I think a shuttle to and from the airport was $5 each way.

I work in construction. So I was interested in seeing the different hotels. I had watched many shows on the Travel Channel (when the Travel Channel was actually about travel) about Vegas.

I stepped off the plane and the BLATANT materialism hit me like a punch in the face. So I get my bags and get the shuttle. I'm on the shuttle and a friend calls. I told him I was in Vegas BUT ALREADY regretting it. 1/2 hour there and already looking to leave. Everywhere you looked, it was like giant tvs, with commercials, bothing but commercials, 24 hours a day. Stayed in my hotel room for a few hours watching real tv. Went to dinner about 1 mile away. GREAT STEAK dinner for $5.95. Donated $17 to the cause while waiting for my table. ($17 trying to force myself to TRY and have a good time.) Walked down the strip and checked out the Bellagio fountains and The Venetian and Ceasars. Went back to the hotel and watched tv. Couldn't wait for my flight the next afternoon.

It might have been different if I wasn't by myself. But I usually don't have a problem being by myself anywhere. Maybe...MAYBE... I might go back, if I went with a group of like valued people with the hopes of seeing some shows. Other people, so I can focus on having a good time with THEM and not being overwhelmed with the blatant in your face EVERYTHING in Vegas.

54 posted on 12/22/2013 6:47:00 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Las Vegas seems to promote sin of one type or another.

It's got a GREAT drag strip and NASCAR track.

55 posted on 12/22/2013 6:47:47 PM PST by Loud Mime (Living Orwell's nightmare)
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To: mountn man
Very good rant :-)

Although I haven't been there in quite a while, I doubt that your $5.95 steak dinner is offered any longer. From what I hear, the days of cut-rate prices for food and drink are long gone.

56 posted on 12/22/2013 6:50:54 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
It just seems like a city that celebrates sin. Not that I am against gambling per se, but everything about Las Vegas seems to promote sin of one type or another.

Yup, they call it "Sin City" just for that reason ;-)

57 posted on 12/22/2013 6:51:55 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
but everything about Las Vegas seems to promote sin of one type or another.

My one time there, (less than 24 hours) I've tried to figure why EXACTLY I hated it. You description was close to what I felt, but not quite. It wasn't QUITE a promotion of EVERYTHING sinful (though many sinful things seemed on display). I guess what I felt was EXTREME GLUTONY. Not gluttony from food, though that was possible. But just over indulgence in EVERYTHING. There was no subtlety in ANYTHING.
EVERYTHING was over the top and in your face.
There was no contentment to be found, because why be content with this, no matter how good the this maybe, when you could have MORE, MORE, MORE!!!

58 posted on 12/22/2013 7:00:00 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: xzins
In the middle of a desert, there is no reason to make Las Vegas survive if it can’t do it itself. Gambling is the only reason it grew, and without that reason it’s a huge waste of energy and resources.

Let's see, Nellis AFB was another reason it grew. The future job growth over the next ten years because of Nellis is predicted to be 25.92%. Also, many conventions of the most successful trade unions, government programs, successful businesses and business organizations and more will be reasons it will survive.

59 posted on 12/22/2013 7:03:23 PM PST by Balata (Obama is a Lying Fraud, and so are his followers!)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Although I haven't been there in quite a while, I doubt that your $5.95 steak dinner is offered any longer. From what I hear, the days of cut-rate prices for food and drink are long gone.

Las Vegas Advisor still has it listed on their Top 10 list.

#3-$7.99 Steak Dinner at Ellis Island

There is also a shrimp cocktail for $1.49 at Skyline and a $0.75 hotdog at Southpoint.

Just go to Lasvegasadvisor.com, you can find all types of deals.

60 posted on 12/22/2013 7:09:29 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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