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Paul Ryan: Pope 'Triggering Exact Dialogue We Should Be Having'
Newsmax ^ | 25 Dec 13 | Drew MacKenzie

Posted on 12/26/2013 6:32:04 AM PST by SkyPilot

Pope Francis' controversial economic views have startled Republicans who are now having to rethink their relationship with the Catholic church, according to Politico.

The pontiff has recently attacked "trickle-down economics, saying that the theory has never been confirmed by fact," and "that it expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power."

The pope also criticized "the idolatry of money" and slammed capitalism as a "new tyranny."

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has already called Time's "Person of the Year" a closet Marxist and now Republicans in Washington are taking aim at the pope, who took over the office in March.

New York Rep. Peter King, who went to a Catholic school and graduated from the University of Notre Dame’s law school, told Politico that the pope’s economic statements are demeaning.

King said that Francis uses the phrase “trickle-down” as a “pejorative” term, “like some liberal speechwriter stuck it in.” He said, "I genuinely believe (that) supply-side economics does more to help people come out of poverty, move up in the world."

But King added, "On the other hand, we shouldn’t be dwelling on wealth. The guidance I’d take from this is, when I support conservative economics, I should do it in a way that helps the most people.”

Arizona Sen. John McCain said that, although he was "impressed" with the pope's modern day outlook on social issues and helping the poor, "his economic perspective I’m not particularly enamored with."

The pope maintains that he wants to de-emphasize the church's position on issues like abortion and gay marriage and instead concentrate on more important problems such as helping the poor and the underprivileged.

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Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, a Catholic who is considered a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2016, said that he did not believe that Francis was a Marxist. But he pointed out in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the pontiff's background is rooted in the Peronist movement in Argentina, where the state took a leading role in the economy. "The guy is from Argentina, they haven’t had real capitalism in Argentina,” Ryan said. "They have crony capitalism in Argentina. They don’t have a true free enterprise system."

Wow.

1 posted on 12/26/2013 6:32:04 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Wonder if Ryan sees the irony?


2 posted on 12/26/2013 6:40:11 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SkyPilot

"But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended."

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"The military retirement system is overly generous....most of these younger retirees go on to second careers.... the money we save from this reform will go right back to the military..."

Disposable: Paul Ryan's Budget Epitomizes How Washington Actually Sees Veterans

3 posted on 12/26/2013 6:41:47 AM PST by SkyPilot
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4 posted on 12/26/2013 6:43:54 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
The EXACT conversation we should be happening is repent and be saved!"

Jesus...and the Gospel...are not social revolutionaries. He's a Savior.

5 posted on 12/26/2013 6:44:31 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: SkyPilot
he wants to de-emphasize the church's position on issues like abortion and gay marriage and instead concentrate on more important problems such as helping the poor and the underprivileged. What's a few million dead babies and the end of the sacrament of marriage as practiced for 2 millenia compared with this decades fad wealth redistribution?
6 posted on 12/26/2013 6:48:28 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: SkyPilot

“The pope maintains that he wants to de-emphasize the church’s position on issues like abortion and gay marriage and instead concentrate on more important problems such as helping the poor and the underprivileged.”

What’s more important than the destruction of civilization (redefining marriage) and demographic suicide (abortion)? If the poor simply got married and stayed married, poverty would be a lot less.

This pope sure does say a lot of stupid things.


7 posted on 12/26/2013 6:58:13 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: SkyPilot
"But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended."

Hitler and Stalin were regarded as pleasant and affable by entire legions of the populace.

8 posted on 12/26/2013 7:00:14 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SkyPilot; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Paul Ryan on the Pope

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 7:06:12 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SkyPilot; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Paul Ryan on the Pope

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 7:07:22 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NELSON111
Jesus...and the Gospel...are not social revolutionaries. He's a Savior.

He came not to save people IN the world but to save them OUT of this world, from the temporal to eternal. That the Pope is centering a conversation about anything beyond that is simple evidence of losing sight of the important message.

11 posted on 12/26/2013 7:08:27 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SkyPilot

Says the crony-capitalist.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 7:08:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SkyPilot

These “younger retirees” are typically in their 40’s looking for jobs to supplement a 20,000 a year retirement takehome from the government.

It’s never been easy to get hired in one’s 40’s, and if your specialty has been blowing things up and shooting people and training for the same, then there aren’t that many job openings.

(Although Homeland Security dreams of the day....)


13 posted on 12/26/2013 7:09:11 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SkyPilot

Remember Pope Fancis is living out what St. Francis of Asissi said “preach the Gospel and when possible use words”. Translation: Preach the Gospel by WALKING the walk you may only be the ONLY GOSPEL there is.


14 posted on 12/26/2013 7:13:30 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SkyPilot

ryan loves crony capitalism... his budget bill proves it. This man is evil and a liar and a thief.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 7:13:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SkyPilot
Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan...is considered a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2016...

Sure.

Be a real cold day in Hell when this POS gets my vote.

Ryan is dead to me.

He cannot redeem himself, no matter what he does or says.

16 posted on 12/26/2013 7:17:28 AM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: T-Bird45

Not just about the NEED for eternal salvation, but also LIVING out that faith in the Savior by loving Him and our neighbors.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 7:17:47 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: dblshot

Ryan is preaching a false doctrine... JESUS warned about these false rabbis.

Luke 17:2

It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

2 Peter 2:1-3

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

1 John 4:1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Matthew 7:15

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Revelation 22:18-19

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

2 Timothy 4:2-4

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Galatians 1:8

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.


18 posted on 12/26/2013 7:23:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: goodnesswins

Paul Ryan is proof positive that a career politician cannot be trusted. Any pol in office for more than one term has waded in the Washington sea of corruption so must be soaked by it.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 7:29:19 AM PST by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: rarestia

One part of the American populace found Uncle Joe Stalin especially charming — President Roosevelt. You can have Poland if you want it.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 7:31:19 AM PST by heye2monn
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