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Even in Hawaii, Obama can't escape troubled state health insurance exchanges
Fox News ^ | Dec 26, 2013 | Doug McKelway

Posted on 12/26/2013 8:50:36 PM PST by Innovative

Already out of a job is Coral Andrews, the executive director of Hawaii's state-run exchange. She submitted her resignation effective December 6 after only 257 people had signed up for health care a month into the roll out.

California has been touted as a state exchange success story.

Only five percent of enrollees are Latino, even though they make up more than half of California's uninsured.

Pelosi said the "transformational" nature of ObamaCare, much like Social Security, means that the law will take time to work out.

She added, "It's going to be a glorious thing."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Maryland; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare
"Glorious thing" indeed, if destroying the US is your goal...
1 posted on 12/26/2013 8:50:36 PM PST by Innovative
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2 posted on 12/26/2013 8:56:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

New Obamacare fees coming in 2014

3 posted on 12/26/2013 9:03:30 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
"It's going to be a glorious thing."


Maybe a new 5 Year Plan from the Politburo? You Kulaks do realize that we are finishing our first glorious 5 Year Plan under Dear Leader?

4 posted on 12/26/2013 9:07:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the weren't really there)
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To: Innovative

It is, it is a glorious thing to be a healthcare King.
I’ve sunk a few more policies it’s true than a
well bred monarch ought to do...

For I am a healthcare king and it is it is a glorious
thing to be a health care king.

Harrah for the healthcare king, harrah for the healthcare

apologies to G&S.

5 posted on 12/26/2013 9:08:10 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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6 posted on 12/26/2013 10:08:41 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our PRE-EXISTING HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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Unfortunately it’s absolutely true!

7 posted on 12/26/2013 10:14:15 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Unlike SS, they are selling this as a product, a product that is overpriced and the young people don't want.

It is going to collapse.

8 posted on 12/27/2013 12:04:19 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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I received this from a friend

This is about the best explanation I have seen yet about what the democratic party is. Everybody wants “something for nothing” but people who are responsible know that somebody has to pay for those who don’t (whether they can’t or won’t – same difference, somebody has to pay for it).

I’m a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That’s right, $1 per month. I’m not making this up.

Don’t believe me? Just go to, the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I’ve mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You’ll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners. But there’s a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I’d like you to think about something:

I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.

But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (see Google Earth View).

Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more.

If you have no insurance, if you’ve been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it’s essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836.

And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month. That’s right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it’s bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would *never* agree to subsidize premium policies. If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I’m subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.

Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work *as an engineer*. $48 is something I could pay for collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That’s just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab.

Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal?

ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left’s political power base, at taxpayer expense.

Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month?

For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage?

Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I’m saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they’ll multiply, and multiply, and multiply. And not one of them will vote other than Democrat.

ObamaCare: It’s all about political power.

9 posted on 12/27/2013 8:35:00 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Amazing! There will be a war.

10 posted on 12/27/2013 1:12:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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“Only five percent of enrollees are Latino, even though they make up more than half of California’s uninsured.”

Bogus statistic. Half of that half isn’t in the country legally.

The amnesty movement and their media friends are big on using that total population figure inappropriately. My city recently got sued because it only had one Latino on the four member City Council when half the population was Latino. Turned out only 18 percent of the voters were Latino. Wish I could get them to take back 20 percent of “their” member...

11 posted on 12/27/2013 2:51:11 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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