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Red versus Blue States: A Divide Worth Having
American Thinker ^ | 12/31/2013 | J. Robert Smith

Posted on 12/31/2013 8:14:54 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The left has long sought to nationalize government, which means a subordination of the states. In the meantime, liberals aren't blind to the advantages red states enjoy over blue states, in terms of siphoning off blue states' productive citizens and enterprises. Liberals see where many businesses choose to relocate. They appreciate that red states are often more affordable to Americans.

Critical to the nation's ongoing experiments in democracy is the imperative to roll back intrusive -- and often coercive -- national government. Washington is an informal ally of blue states, like Maryland, at the expense of red states, via legislation, court rulings, or executive fiat. What Washington can't annex from states outright, it uses taxpayers' dollars to leverage compliance with federal rules and regulations.

The Obama presidency has been largely an attempt by the left to reenergize and reassert national government at the expense of true federalism. President Obama is the "anti-Reagan." The left wants leftism regnant in every state and locality and is using a bolder national government to impose itself.

But the left's error may be in thinking that conservative Americans will eventually go quietly into the good night, permitting the left to work its will. Big fights loom if the left continues to try to ram its agendas down the throats of red state Americans (ObamaCare is a first critical battle). There's now a long history of leftism in America. The right's rejection of leftism is grounded in the left's demonstrated failures and in cultural and societal constructs that conservative Americans view as wrong-headed and deficient. The lines have been drawn and set.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: scooby321
Blue States have high debt, high taxes and corrupt Government that is run like the Mafia.

and most of this is slated to be paid for by those of us in the conservative states and the conservatives in the left states.

21 posted on 12/31/2013 9:01:37 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I have been totally peeved and nonplussed at how quickly conservatives wholeheartedly accepted the new PC designations.
The change is to present the Left revolutionaries as somehow the real conservatives and the conservatives as the radical bomb throwers.


22 posted on 12/31/2013 9:03:46 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: freerepublicchat
Most of Illinois would love to divide itself from Chicago, for example.

From your lips to God's ear, that's the truth!

23 posted on 12/31/2013 9:05:41 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 3Fingas; fieldmarshaldj

“We are true blue patriots, not commie red.”

Yeah, I can remember watching the election coverage when all of a sudden they explained the new helpful color coded system. I laughed out loud at the transparency of their gall. It still confuses me to this day. It’s thoroughly misleading.


24 posted on 12/31/2013 9:09:41 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: shankbear

I hear all the time here in Alabama, “We are just waiting for Texas to go out”.


25 posted on 12/31/2013 9:10:02 AM PST by Himyar
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To: Dr. Pritchett

It always makes me remember the choice offered Neo in ‘The Matrix’...take the red pill and waken to a harsh reality, take the blue pill and sleep on in your fantasy while you feed parasitic overlords.


26 posted on 12/31/2013 9:17:09 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: arthurus

Democrats fight every battle and conservatives think they can pick and choose which battles to fight. Every battle we don’t fight is just ground ceded to the democrats.

Conservatives aren’t getting out there to change the RNC which is the policy making wing of the GOP. Conservatives don’t show up to vote for college administration seats or state boards of education. Disengaging is a losing strategy plain and simple.

In our last school bond approval there were less than 200 votes cast and its estimated that less than 2 dozen of those who voted were people not employed by the school district.


27 posted on 12/31/2013 9:17:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Himyar

When TX goes out, do you think they’ll ship out all the subversives in Austin, Houston, and El Paso?? It would be a shame to start with a core of insurgents already inside the walls. (As we did with millions of freed slaves after the Civil War).


28 posted on 12/31/2013 9:20:28 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: RoosterRedux

Most of the population of the US resides near the coasts, which happens to coincide with the “blue” population, and is also home to most of the manufacturing and military resources. If the liberal fascists currently running the government really wanted to put the screws to the “red” flyover country, they could do it pretty handily. The absolute last thing they want here is African style civil war, and the goal and ROE of the government
would be to crush any opposition by any means necessary. The US can never be allowed to fracture, because if it did, the atrocities and destruction to the western hemisphere would make china, russia, and africa seem trivial by comparison. If the US were to fracture, everything from the arctic circle to panama will be up for grabs, and nobody will be able to escape the destruction.


29 posted on 12/31/2013 9:24:23 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
Most of the population of the US resides near the coasts, which happens to coincide with the “blue” population, and is also home to most of the manufacturing and military resources. If the liberal fascists currently running the government really wanted to put the screws to the “red” flyover country, they could do it pretty handily. The absolute last thing they want here is African style civil war, and the goal and ROE of the government would be to crush any opposition by any means necessary. The US can never be allowed to fracture, because if it did, the atrocities and destruction to the western hemisphere would make china, russia, and africa seem trivial by comparison. If the US were to fracture, everything from the arctic circle to panama will be up for grabs, and nobody will be able to escape the destruction.

Poppycock. What you are saying is maintain the status quo, go into the night quietly. Screw that.

30 posted on 12/31/2013 9:37:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m stuck here in a patch of red surrounded by blue.


31 posted on 12/31/2013 9:42:09 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The color switcheroo was intentionally pulled by John Chancellor & Peter Jennings during the 1980 presidential election. As it became obvious that Ronald Reagan was winning in a landslide, the liberal newsies made the majority states’ color red, turning the electoral map of the U.S. into a field of blood and reflecting the somber mood of Chancellor & Jennings, who being both dead are now even more somber than they were then.

Their `legacy’ survives, more’s the pity.


32 posted on 12/31/2013 9:43:47 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: JimRed

Joisy Ouch.

All you can do is stand your ground and keep fighting. If you can’t stand your ground, consider a state in transition over one that’s firmly red because we need the wins.


33 posted on 12/31/2013 9:46:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: elcid1970

They may have done it that long ago at ABC, but it wasn’t “officially” implemented until Election Night 2000. That gullible Republicans/Conservatives call themselves “Reds” today proves how ill-equipped our side is in fighting ideological battles.


34 posted on 12/31/2013 9:55:21 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: cripplecreek

“Democrats fight every battle and conservatives think they can pick and choose which battles to fight. Every battle we don’t fight is just ground ceded to the democrats.”

To humbly quote myself for a couple weeks ago, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3097458/posts

“In the public arena of so-called partisan politics, the Fascist Left advances on every front every day in every way, slowly metastasizing inside of every human institution, while Republicans and some conservatives insist, “We must choose our fights.” That is the mantra of a cadre that does not care to win, because all the fights you choose not to fight, you are choosing to lose. When you automatically cede victory to your opponent in a majority of the conflicts, you automatically cede victory in the long run, period.

That is why the Fascist Left is winning and will continue to win – they want to fight and win each and every conflict — and in the aggregate, we don’t.”


35 posted on 12/31/2013 9:56:32 AM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: central_va

Oh, the red country will definitely not go quietly into the night. Depending on how much damage occurs initially, we are either balkanized, and devolve into tribal feudal regimes, or we become a nation like china, or the soviet union, through overwhelming force. This scenario has played out through history time and time again, and it has always ended up in darkness and ruin. And by human nature, we’re no different.


36 posted on 12/31/2013 9:59:17 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: crusher

We should run to the sound of every battle.


37 posted on 12/31/2013 10:00:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Indeed


38 posted on 12/31/2013 10:01:27 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

If Texas seceeded, they should give everyone six months to leave, no questions asked. People from other states would be welcome but they would have no voting rights for five years as a way of preventing liberal activists from flooding in and trying to undo everything.


39 posted on 12/31/2013 10:02:04 AM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Do you remember when they first started coloring states? Dem states were red, and Repub states were blue.

10 - 15 years ago (someone will know....), they obviously saw that the color red being associated with the Dems was too close to the truth, and too revealing of their commie hearts - so the media changed it.

Anyone remember or can find out what year the colors changed?


40 posted on 12/31/2013 10:03:42 AM PST by Arlis
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