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Jobless benefits bill clears key Senate hurdle, over GOP complaints on cost(Reid's subject change)
Fox News ^ | January 07, 2014

Posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:36 AM PST by sickoflibs

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To: fifedom

Time to get Ohio rid of Portman—He ran as a conservative


81 posted on 01/07/2014 9:34:48 PM PST by RightLady
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To: sickoflibs
This is all borrowed -- every penny of it," Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., told Fox News.

What's your point, Senator? A trillion dollars a year is borrowed and all of Congress don't seem to have a problem with that.

82 posted on 01/08/2014 3:33:46 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: chopperman

The MSM will make sure the dems are never on the defensive. Republicans are gonna look bad on this.


83 posted on 01/08/2014 5:17:49 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: cripplecreek

IMO Republicans should extend unemployment benefits indefinitely and raise the minimum wage. Get these issues off of the table prior to the election. We really only have one main winning issue on our side.......getting rid of obamacare. I see it as our last chance.


84 posted on 01/08/2014 9:59:31 AM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy

And maybe we should give a living wage to all people and let them just “be” man.


85 posted on 01/08/2014 10:05:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cornfedcowboy; cripplecreek
RE :”IMO Republicans should extend unemployment benefits indefinitely and raise the minimum wage. Get these issues off of the table prior to the election. We really only have one main winning issue on our side.......getting rid of obamacare. I see it as our last chance.”

There is a flaw in your reasoning above and I know you are not alone in it.

Going along with Dems passing redistributed freebees that poll well this year is not going to help the GOP get rid of all the freebees in Obamacare (they probably wont really try either) sometime later.

Freebees are always popular.

Effective arguments are required.

86 posted on 01/08/2014 10:31:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

The GOP must negotiate with an eye on actually gaining something.


87 posted on 01/08/2014 10:35:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
RE :”The GOP must negotiate with an eye on actually gaining something.”

I haven't heard any position from Bohner on the minimum wage lately.
Dems keep saying its so popular that GOP will cave on it, but that doesn't mean a lot.

But that's Obama’s next weapon after unemployment comp.

88 posted on 01/08/2014 10:42:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

I would vote for an extension in return for two firm things. I would demand that those benefits be drawn down by $10 or $20 per check over time and some kind of serious regulatory or tax cut and they must be in the bill. None of this promise crap from the democrats.

Its a gentle prod to the unemployed to keep looking and its something that helps spur job creation.


89 posted on 01/08/2014 10:48:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
There is a more structural problem with employment and unemployment not solved by an quick or easy fixes, I go into it here: see at #2 here
90 posted on 01/08/2014 10:52:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: vpintheak
Cut the Vets benefits, but toss “free” money at the bums who won’t take a job after 2 years.

I agree with what you say about our Vets. They should be priority.

Republicans and democrats, however, cannot have it both ways on the jobs issue. This is either an Obama economic disaster OR Obama's policies have indeed worked and the economy is improving under the democrat majority government.

Our elected republicans have conceded that the Obama economy is indeed doing very well... so well that unemployment extention is "no longer needed". That was their first mantra a few months ago.

Now some of those republicans are saying that they would actually support an extention if there were cuts somewhere else. This should have been their statement from the beginning. Now they say the economy is "good" but we will still support an extention if cuts somewhere else were made.

Democrats win, republicans lose on this argument.

You are right.

91 posted on 01/08/2014 12:56:22 PM PST by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: cripplecreek
I would vote for an extension in return for two firm things

Yes, but you have not been running around conceding that Obama's economic policies have been creating so many jobs that extensions are no longer needed. Elected republicans did just that a few months ago.

92 posted on 01/08/2014 1:00:10 PM PST by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: sickoflibs
Obama’s next weapon after unemployment comp.

Unemployment extensions in 2014 should only be a weapon of the opposition (republicasns) and not belong to Obama. It means the economy is still bad. What a shame the republicans managed to turn this weapon against themselves.

93 posted on 01/08/2014 1:03:02 PM PST by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

LOL true.

In Obamatopia, there should be no poverty and 115% employment.


94 posted on 01/08/2014 1:03:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: vpintheak

A politician has to have his priorities straight, don’t ya know?


95 posted on 01/08/2014 2:03:27 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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96 posted on 01/08/2014 5:52:25 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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when will these suckers like Paul Ryan ever learn? He just pissed off a core constituency to get an “agreement” with people that have no intention of living up to it and every intention of breaking it while blaming it on him. And they want to work with these people on immigration laws?


97 posted on 01/09/2014 3:34:02 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think you are probably right, unless the House members are getting a LOT of calls to approve.


98 posted on 01/10/2014 1:27:27 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: sickoflibs

Why did the USA not have public service projects where those on unemployment benefits would be required to help local governments at least a couple days a week to pick litter, clean up parks, paint signs, and clean up cities and doing stuff that America needs but can’t afford, instead of just giving the money away.

It would have improved the nation, and encouraged those on benefits to look harder for work or become entrepreneurial and not become dependent. Instead we gave away many billions and got nothing for it. More effort needs made to wean people off of these programs while doing something for the nation.


99 posted on 01/10/2014 8:31:23 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone
RE :”Why did the USA not have public service projects where those on unemployment benefits would be required to help local governments at least a couple days a week to pick litter, clean up parks, paint signs, and clean up cities and doing stuff that America needs but can’t afford, instead of just giving the money away.”

Technically unemployment comp is paying you while you look for a job. You have to be claiming to be looking to get it, and to even be reported as unemployed. But Technically the US is supposed to be securing the border too, you know how that goes.

There are two major problems I see(briefly):

1) The economy has changed dramatically where people with the right skills do quite well, versus those without them,
2) Many unemployed live, own houses in, have roots in, areas where jobs are not. And it will be painful for them to move.

And these two problems are why you see employers always asking for more legal immigrants.

100 posted on 01/10/2014 8:40:16 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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