Posted on 01/12/2014 8:24:05 AM PST by umgud
The MXT135 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System has a range of roughly 7,800 feet - and is to be deployed in Afghanistan soon. I would call it the "Equalizer." Some call it the "Punisher".
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“Will we flood Libya with shipments of these?”
No. ATF will be walking them into Mexico.
It’s a 700fps round. No way a 35mm blunt nosed round is going 2,300 meters when starting at 700fps. Also, it’s stated specification is 550 meters.
equalizer?
equalizing them with what??
What does the weapon weigh and how many rounds does it carry?
“Tell that to the soldier who’s life you’d prefer to waste you idiot”
The old, “Anything for the soldiers even if the country goes broke”, philosophy. So, some soldiers get this device but because it consumed the money we had to spend, other soldiers get less of something else, maybe body armor or ammo for their weapons. What do you tell those soldiers?
Heck, I worked on multi billion dollar space-based weapons that could negate the soldier completely as they could identify, target, and kill individual targets. Maybe you’d support a trillion dollar system to do that? Is that a smart use of taxpayer money?
Yeah. Whatta laugh. I had the Forest Service in there for the first iteration on the comment, then I thought “No, his storm troopers in the ACORN follow on organizations will get them first” - after all, they’re his version of the SA.
Horse $hit. What do you think you're defending? If it's "the land of the free," it won't be when you come home "victorious," only to see the nation you fought to "liberate" go right back to where it was before you started. A military strategy alone won't defeat Islam.
Infantry tactics are the same no matter where you go or who you fight.
If this weapon works, not any more. Tactics changed with the stirrup. Tactics changed with the cannon. Tactics changed with air power. Tactics change.
All you can see is some SWAT clown killing children with it. Fine.
Of the 450 no knock raids in New York City over the 1990s, PER MONTH, 10% were to the wrong address. Nor has the City owned the full liability for those false raids in a single case. Most often, they don't even pay to fix the front door. Meanwhile, a police sergeant in San Jose drags down $250K and expects a 40-year retirement at 90% salary for all the "risks" he takes. Meanwhile, patrolmen are demanding backup to hand out a traffic ticket.
I see the engagements my Soldiers and I were in in Iraq and how incredibly useful this weapon would have been, and I’m very glad our guys will now have it to hopefully eliminate that most basic tenet of squat combat for the enemy.
The Islamic enemy has sponsors, without whom he'd be back to buggering camels. That sponsor is my enemy. You don't get it, because you don't understand who empowers your enemy, who just so happens to be the same claque that empowers the almighty "security" state. That's the same state that put you up to fighting abroad, thinking that killing a few hundred thousand terrorists was going to do anything about substantively changing a billion Muslims.
But, please, don’t let me keep you from fretting in the dark all by yourself. It seems to make you happy.
It's all about you. The war is all about you. Your hollow "victory" is all about you. How many Islamic terrorists within US borders has the WOT killed? Or are they still pouring in over the borders? Did your budding police state stop the DC sniper or was it a citizen? How about Tsarnaiev? Did those house to house searches work, or was it a citizen who found the perp? You blather about killing the enemy, yet police and military have killed more innocents within US borders than they have terrorists. Oh, you don't remember Waco? Would they have tried what they did if they didn't have helicopters, tanks, and incendiary grenades?
Yeah, put the "professionals" in charge! A "security" system designed by lawyers and bureaucrats! Uh, whom are they working for? They don't know what they're doing any more than you do.
After trillions spent on national defense, how many planes did they bring down on 9-11? The unorganized militia took down the only one: Flight 93. If CCW holders on airlines were deputized, I promise you, there would never be another successful high-jacking. Problem solved, for free, and with no unionized claque of welfare cases frisking every traveler.
You have no concept for how you've been used. All you want is better weapons; you can't be responsible for how they used against citizens and don't care.
I see. You clearly do not.
Are you in CO? What are you smoking and how much? I’m very glad for a new infantry weapon that makes my guys and guys like me safer on the battlefield, so that means that I’m a supporter of the police state?
You’re nuts, dude. Seek help.
It ain’t pretty.
Considering what a typical full auto AR-15 pre '86 rifle would cost you, $11,900 sounds like a good deal......
Getting and purchasing all the required permits just to be able to buy one is the easy part. Getting the money together to buy it is the hard part......LOL!
Can you please translate that post into English for me?
1. The warhead is too small and the fragmentation is useless. The frags are the size of grains of sand and will only serve to annoy the enemy. Anything but a direct hit will just require a Band-Aid.
2. The rounds are time fuzed only. No point detonating option. The fuze is set by the laser rangefinder sight which requires the operator to stick a portion of himself out of cover long enough to range the target and to get a firing solution. Any of you who have been in a firefight know that sticking your head and shoulders outside of cover for several seconds is nuts/suicidal.
3.It's heavy. The last known weight of that pig was about 14 pounds loaded. Good luck humping that thing for any great distances.
It also kicks like a bull moose..
Why do we keep getting noncombat folks telling us what we need to fight people? Why do we keep buying big buck vendor programs for things they think we need?
Picatinny refused to even look at better weapons than the M-16 family yet they have been funneling tens of millions into this beast. Frustrating as hell.
almost a pointless development as ROE’s will almost certainly stop its use in combat . There could be kids hiding behind those walls , out of sight....
Being accurate the ability to place the round on target also improves the usefulness of it.
Being to insert the round into fairly small openings really increases it effectiveness.
China most likely already has one.
If the history of new weapons systems stays true I wonder how much soliders blood it will take to ‘break-in’ these new weapons?
Allahu akhbar!
Wanna bet that even if you and I had the money, we could never legally buy one? Not even in “semi-auto”.
These are going to be used against those of us who won’t turn over our “assault rifles” I promise you.
If we are putting our soldiers in harms way we darn well better provide them with the best possible weapons possible as well as support. The reverse of this is the case with 0bama - screw the soldiers, don't let them do their mission and hand tie them when they try. Is that your philosophy too toadie?
“’$11,900.00 each.’
Crazy. Only America would spend and waste that much money.”
Have you priced AR’s lately? $2,000 a pop. I am surprised these can be had for only $12,000 each.
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