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NSA programme in 100K computers around world allows them to hack even when not connected to Internet
The London Daily Mail / The Associated Press ^ | January 15, 2014

Posted on 01/15/2014 8:17:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: cva66snipe

>> NSA should not be listening without a warrant.

Of course. And thanks for the brief accounts concerning sharing and exposures.

My financial transactions say more about me than I can ever say on a phone call; yet, we all (most) transact without the slightest concern for privacy.

This NSA charade is BS. It’s the privacy scapegoat for the ACA as far as I’m concerned.


21 posted on 01/15/2014 11:48:39 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: sickoflibs
Radio waves.... please.

Wi-Fi, bluetooth, cordless phones all work on just radio waves, what is the problem?

22 posted on 01/16/2014 12:19:04 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm not at all surprised that rf is used widely for data snooping.

The NRO has launched several satellites to geosynchronous orbit. These sats have very large dish antennas pointed downward. The antennas unfurl like large umbrellas to form a dish of about 350ft diameter. These can be seen as bright stationary objects against a moving star field with good amateur telescopes.

They don't even bother trying to keep it all secret since everyone can see them and the security services of other countries are fully aware of them.

I suspect that the figure of 100,000 devices worldwide being snooped on by rf is far less than the reality.

They would like for people to believe that the rf emitted by these bugged devices is picked up by drones or field agents with briefcase radios..lol The large NRO sats are what is used IMO... just imagine 100,000+ guys running around with briefcase radios :-)

I'd say a good rule of thumb is if an rf source placed on one side of a desk can be picked up by a good scanner placed on the opposite side then it can be picked up by the NRO sats. The gain of a dish that large is incredible and the low-noise amps that would be used add even more gain.

If the rf 'bug' was emitting an extremely weak signal or if it was transmitting from a location that only allowed a small fraction of the signal to get out then it could still be used to send data if the data rate was very slow. The slow rate would allow for good detection even if the signal was well below the noise floor. Data would be sent by simply switching the carrier on and off in a sort of Morse code fashion.

Cell phones offer more ways to snoop beyond the capture of actual voice/data using the cell system. In many smart phones if you tinker with the firmware code you can emit a signal outside the normal cell and bluetooth frequencies. The cell and bluetooth frequencies are too saturated with rf to be of any use but if you move a bit beyond those noisy frequencies then the rf is easily received. Altering the frequency of a smart phone would allow you to use it as a satellite phone in an emergency. Just alter the firmware to enable encrypted voice/data and operation outside normal frequencies.

The wifi and bluetooth equipment in your average laptop computer may also possibly be moved out of band by a firmware change...I'm not certain as I have not looked into this possibility but it wouldn't surprise me. This would defeat an air-gap setup. All sorts of things are possible when you have such big ears listening from space :-)

23 posted on 01/16/2014 3:21:05 AM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics - Richard Feynman)
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To: RicocheT
These radio chips were installed covertly in computers of our potential enemies,

newsflash....white middle class Constitutionalists & Christians are now considered enemies and terrorists

Does anyone believe for a moment it stopped outside our borders?

24 posted on 01/16/2014 3:41:57 AM PST by Revelation 911
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RE :”Wi-Fi, bluetooth, cordless phones all work on just radio waves, what is the problem? “

My cell phone doesn't work in my office.
You know Why?
Because is a big building between it and the cell phone tower.
They don't make it through that building.

Radio waves are not magic, but those who think they are will believe anything, as this proves.

I still remember all those hoax claims that the 2009 credit card reform bill would result in me paying monthly fee for my credit card like the old days, FNC was big on that. Many here bought that hoax.

25 posted on 01/16/2014 5:17:04 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Because is a big building between it and the cell phone tower.

However if they were using a computer in that building across from you to send the signal, then the building would not be a problem, it would be a booster.

Believe what you want.

26 posted on 01/16/2014 10:10:00 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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RE :”However if they were using a computer in that building across from you to send the signal, then the building would not be a problem, it would be a booster.”

Radio waves still magic to you I see.
You missed the part where radio waves don't go through all matter. And they require antennas too.

27 posted on 01/16/2014 10:17:01 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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