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Republicans Begin Laying Ground Work to Walk Away From Obamacare Opposition
Red State ^ | 1/16/2014 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/16/2014 7:28:22 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather

Conservative and Republican affiliated groups have started the 2014 assault against Democrats who support Obamacare. At the very same time, it is increasingly clear Republicans are laying the groundwork to abandon their opposition to Obamacare.

The Business Roundtable, which has a great relationship with Republican Leaders, is now listing Obamacare as an entitlement worth preserving.

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former economic advisor to John McCain and who opposed passage of Obamacare, has started a think tank premised on keeping, but fixing, Obamacare. Holtz-Eakin has the ear of Republican leaders. In 2009, Mitch McConnell appointed him to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.

The Chamber of Commerce is declaring it will work to fix, not repeal, Obamacare. In fact, just last week the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said, “The administration is obviously committed to keeping the law in place, so the chamber has been working pragmatically to fix those parts of Obamacare that can be fixed.”

Concurrent to this, the Chamber of Commerce has begun funding candidates to beat conservatives in Republican primaries.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; 113th; aca; boehner; gop; gopestablishment; groundwork; liberalagenda; obamacare; opposition; republicans; rinos; teaparty; zerocare
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Well, I’m glad the GOP-e made their Uniparty status official.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 8:02:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Today is a great day.

A municipal employee, I have paid $400/month for a BCBS healht plan. That was a 20% contribution. I cancelled that plan today.

Then about a month ago, a freeper mentioned healthshare ministries as an alternative. I signed up and the total cost is half of my 20% BCBS contribution. With the $200/ month saved, I’m starting a medical savings account.

Most cool is that, in my state, membership in the health sharing ministry shields me from the tax penalty.

The deductable is higher...and it doesn’t cover cosmetic surgery, glasses and injury from illegal stupidity. But I can see the train coming: in a year BCBS will cancel all these policies....or double the price. The city will increase contribution levels or go broke. The fellers at work watch football and baseball....not the news. Clueless....just the way obama needs them to be...creeping misery....saving the LEO’s and firefighters for last.

I would like to thank the freeper or freepers who thought it meet to mention health sharing ministries. I thought I was sunk. Had no knowledge of them.

Furthermore. ..BCBS can kiss my arse. Collaborators. They think they’re too big and necessary to fail.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 8:05:59 AM PST by dasboot
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To: sheikdetailfeather

There never was any serious Republican opposition to Obamacare. Why haven’t the Republicans in the House vote to prohibit a bailout of insurance companies? That would strike at the heart of Obamacare.

The GOP is a souless party with no core convictions.


23 posted on 01/16/2014 8:06:10 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Obadiah; cherry; Norm Lenhart; flaglady47; ifinnegan; Nifster
What - exactly - is the difference between a Democrat and the GOP-e? In what areas of substance does the GOP-e differ from Democrats?

Obamacare? - no
Amnesty? - no
Abortion? - no
Expanding government? - no
Hating Conservatives? no
Federal fiscal integrity? - no

Just where is there any difference?

Cherry, I like you. I do think you are wrong, and I'd like you to see this.

Norm, here's a concise blurb to defend your position.... and a solid position, it is.

The rest of you, this is something to consider.

24 posted on 01/16/2014 8:10:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Looks like the insurance companies got to the corporatists in the GOP.

The GOP is nothing but a bunch of damned bookkeepers managing the decline of the Republic.


25 posted on 01/16/2014 8:10:46 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: dasboot

Good for you!!


26 posted on 01/16/2014 8:13:29 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: FReepers

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27 posted on 01/16/2014 8:16:09 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
I've been having fun comparing this list from 1963 to our reality 50 years later. Here's a few that seem to apply:

Current Communist Goals (1963)

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

With obamacare, Homeland Security and now the Chamber of Commerce, those are a few I think they (the socialists among us: the progressive Democrats and Republicans) can cross off of their To-Do list.

Reagan was right. Unless there is some sort of change in direction, this experiment in self rule we inherited will soon be a memory that will slowly fade away as we die off and take it with us.

28 posted on 01/16/2014 8:16:21 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Recall that the Chamber is 100% about also pushing for amnesty. This is a true picture of business in this country, a facist inspired bunch on the dole of the government. What these clowns fail to recognize is as soon as they allow the left to win on O care and Amnesty, they will be next on the list when “equality of income” begins to play. Stockholders now have virtually no say in what management does but then they are capitalists by and large. When those who support socialism get farther in the majority, these “leaders” will rue the day they thought they were getting a leg up on everyone else due to cheap labor and moving their health costs onto their workers. The leg up will the those Pi....ng on them.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 8:19:34 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: dasboot

Whats the group you use? I’m looking at Christian Healthcare Ministries.


30 posted on 01/16/2014 8:23:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Liberty Healthshare.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 8:40:08 AM PST by dasboot
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To: Lazamataz

What - exactly - is the difference between a Democrat and the GOP-e? In what areas of substance does the GOP-e differ from Democrats?

Obamacare? - no

Every Republican in the House voted against Obamacare.

Amnesty? - no

Pubs push border security first, Dems don’t.

Abortion? - no

Most Pubs are anti-abortion, even the libertarian Rand Paul, and his father before him.

Expanding government? - no

Most Pubs attempt by proposing legislation, to limit spending and shrink the size of gov’t. Because they don’t have the votes to get the cuts they want, they must negotiate tradeoffs and have to compromise, whether they want to do so or not. Unless we take over the Senate in the mid-term elections and the Presidency in 2016, our goose is cooked. All the more reason why no one can sit home or vote 3rd party until we gain back the majority in the Senate, and then the Presidency. Otherwise, you ain’t seen nothin yet. Full blown socialism, here we come.

Hating Conservatives? no

Who hates who more, conservatives hating the GOPe for not being conservative enough or GOPe hating conservatives for thinking they are not conservatives too. Methinks the feeling is mutual.

Federal fiscal integrity? - no

Some Pubs are shysters, no doubt about it, but many are not, are honest brokers and want what they think is best for the country. The sellouts are obvious, such as John McInsane and Lindsey Grahamesty and their small gang of sychophants. There are always just enough turncoats to stop reform. And now that Harry Reid is stacking the deck in the Senate, votes for anything positive will be virtually impossible.


32 posted on 01/16/2014 8:48:38 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Obadiah
What - exactly - is the difference between a Democrat and the GOP-e? In what areas of substance does the GOP-e differ from Democrats?

DemocRAT:


GOPe:


33 posted on 01/16/2014 8:52:33 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I read/heard somewhere that the gop-e really doesn’t want to do away with bammycare because it’s tax money they can spend. It can also be used as a leverage for or against other legislative items.


34 posted on 01/16/2014 8:58:16 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Mouton
This is a true picture of business in this country, a facist inspired bunch on the dole of the government.

I'm afraid its the truth.

Just this morning my uncle told me about an Israeli businessman he's mentoring as part of a program through UofM. The guy spent his life savings investing in his business on the belief that the MEDC (Michigan Economic Development Corp.) would back it. The MEDC changed their mind or never intended to give him the money. The guy got mad because my uncle told him that it was his own fault for investing everything on what may or may not have been a promise to spend taxpayer money for him to make money. Now the guy is in California seeking taxpayer money there.

My uncle says the guy has a good business idea and product that he would invest in himself if the guy were to step aside and let someone else run it and drop his fixation on getting taxpayer money. OTOH, it shouldn't cost $100,000 for licensing fees and other assorted regulatory fees.
35 posted on 01/16/2014 9:00:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ray76
"The Republican Party organizationally and many Republicans individually never were opposed to Obamacare, they just thought their plan would be better."

Which is ultimately how the Democrats are going to win this one as well.

The RATs will simply say (with ample evidence) that the Obamacare disaster is a consequence of trying to collaborate with Republicans, who actually invented the whole idea anyway (Mitt Romney). Then the RATs will quickly pivot and drive hard for a complete single payer system....
36 posted on 01/16/2014 9:04:33 AM PST by indthkr
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It doesn't matter what party wants to do whatever. The citizens will not comply, they are not going to participate.

It's called a bloodless revolution.

37 posted on 01/16/2014 9:07:19 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Sooth2222; Texas Fossil; All

” - - - The Chamber of Commerce is declaring it will work to fix, not repeal, Obamacare. In fact, just last week the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said, “The administration is obviously committed to keeping the law in place, so the chamber has been working pragmatically to fix those parts of Obamacare that can be fixed.” - - - “

WHY?

” - - - At the very same time, it is increasingly clear Republicans are laying the groundwork to abandon their opposition to Obamacare. - - - “

Have both the C of C and the RINO Party been taken over by Commie Obamacrats?

Looks like Neo-Democrat Boehner will have an easy time of it to raise lots of Campaign money for his loyal to Obama RINOs who have supported Obamacare, such as Senator Cornyn (RINO, Texas).


38 posted on 01/16/2014 9:12:16 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Lazamataz

I am no supporter of the elites... GOP or otherwise.

I support individual conservative candidates. I have sent NO money to the GOP since 1990


39 posted on 01/16/2014 9:17:58 AM PST by Nifster
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To: flaglady47
Obamacare? - no

Every Republican in the House voted against Obamacare.

Lady, are you READING the headline of THIS article????

Republicans Begin Laying Ground Work to Walk Away From Obamacare Opposition

Your thesis is FAIL.

Amnesty? - no

Pubs push border security first, Dems don’t.

Right, because Obama has been SO good at keeping promises and enforcing existing law. So that focus is SO effective.

Again, your thesis is FAIL.

40 posted on 01/16/2014 9:44:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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