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Ohio killer's execution takes almost 25 minutes
Associated Press ^ | Jan 16, 2014 9:32 PM (ET) | ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS

Posted on 01/16/2014 7:20:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW

A condemned man appeared to gasp several times and took an unusually long time to die - more than 20 minutes - in an execution carried out Thursday with a combination of drugs never before tried in the U.S.

Dennis McGuire's attorney Allen Bohnert called the convicted killer's death "a failed, agonizing experiment" and added: "The people of the state of Ohio should be appalled at what was done here today in their names."

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; execution
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I don't know the ins and outs of legal execution but so many people OD every day, effortlessly, that I don't understand why it's so hard to carry it out during an execution.
1 posted on 01/16/2014 7:20:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW

What’s wrong with hanging?


2 posted on 01/16/2014 7:21:59 PM PST by slumber1 (Fortune favors the bold!)
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To: slumber1

Or the tried and true guillotine.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 7:25:10 PM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: slumber1

It’s classed as inhumane. Firing squad is quick but you can’t do that anymore either.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 7:25:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
25 minutes? Oh yeah? How long did the rape take?

This guy got off easy.

Stop whining, Ass. Press.

5 posted on 01/16/2014 7:25:18 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: slumber1
What’s wrong with hanging?

Too efficient . . . and humane.

6 posted on 01/16/2014 7:25:57 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: slumber1
The cheapest, quickest, most effective and down-to-earth all-American way would be firing squad.

Everything else is just gimmickry.

7 posted on 01/16/2014 7:26:19 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: backwoods-engineer

It’s his family. They were present. It doesn’t say how old his daughter is.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 7:26:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Guillotine takes fraction of a second.


9 posted on 01/16/2014 7:27:11 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12

Yeah but it’s gruesome.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 7:28:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
He should be grateful he got an extra 24 minutes.
11 posted on 01/16/2014 7:29:24 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Reports in the European press said his death took 15 minutes..the AP seems to have inflated the time. I’m sure the official time is more like 5 minutes.


12 posted on 01/16/2014 7:29:58 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: bramps

He couldn’t do much with that 24 minutes.


13 posted on 01/16/2014 7:30:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Give them a choice. firing squad, lethal injection or electric chair.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 7:30:28 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Should have him on ObamaCare and made him suffer for years.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 7:31:13 PM PST by Rodm
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To: slumber1

I recall hangings at Fort Leavenworth still going on about 1960.


16 posted on 01/16/2014 7:31:19 PM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has given AFGE Gov employees unpre)
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To: DJ MacWoW

With everything available, why not just put someone out as if for surgery, then administer whatever drug makes it permanent. Done.


17 posted on 01/16/2014 7:32:00 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: DJ MacWoW

LOL, 25 minutes? I guess those 20-something years of appeals he got don’t count.


18 posted on 01/16/2014 7:32:44 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: The Great RJ
I don't know. His family wants to sue for cruel and inhumane but:

state Assistant Attorney General Thomas Madden had argued that while the U.S. Constitution bans cruel and unusual punishment, "you're not entitled to a pain-free execution."

19 posted on 01/16/2014 7:33:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Yeah, if I ever end up in that situation I’d rather have a firing squad. 30 cal rifles, tell ‘em to aim for my head. Blink and you’re gone.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 7:33:28 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I kinda liked Florida’s Old Sparky. I thought smoking hair was a nice deterrent.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 7:34:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I wonder what is causing all the problems.

When I had my gaul bladder removed, the anesthesiologist was speaking to me and I went out in mid sentence.

Anything they did after that I would have never known.

Can’t they just knock them out and use the Russian method of a bullet to the back of the head?


22 posted on 01/16/2014 7:35:14 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: JudyinCanada

Yeah. Like propofol.


23 posted on 01/16/2014 7:35:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Better to do contortions like this than a bullet behind the ear.


24 posted on 01/16/2014 7:35:56 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: entropy12

So there were three men waiting to die on the Guillotine. The first was a priest and he was asked whether he wanted to die looking up or down. He said up, looking towards heaven. So he laid down and the blade came down and stopped just short of his neck. The executioner said, wow, hand of God, you can go. The next man, a bum and a drunk said he would look up like the priest and the blade again stopped just short of his neck. He too was allowed to leave. The third man, an engineer, said before he went to lie down, “I think I know how to fix that for you.”


25 posted on 01/16/2014 7:35:57 PM PST by Mercat
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To: DJ MacWoW
How long did that poor young pregnant mom suffer being horribly raped and essentially guillotined?

25 minutes? He should have suffered a lot longer than that.

26 posted on 01/16/2014 7:36:00 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

As I understand it, you don’t have to face the death penalty at all if you don’t want to.

Don’t do the crime. Let these innocent women life and you can live.

ACLU, Lefty idiots,... educate your ranks.


27 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Most likely he was dead and it was his body reacting.


28 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:31 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Boo-freakin’-hoo. This piece of garbage was alive for the 24 years prior to his execution, unlike his victims.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:53 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: YHAOS
I'm convinced that we got rid of all of the quick, humane, efficient methods because the Anti-Death Penalty freaks insisted on it.

Now we slowly strap people to tables, we ready the medical equipment, we search endlessly for useable veins, we slowly inject this chemical, then we slowly inject this other chemical. And, since we have to choose chemicals with no side effects, they do not work all that well, so the patient gasps and spasms and takes 24 minutes to die.

And THAT allows the Anti-Death Penalty freaks to stand up and say, "You monsters!"

30 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:55 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: Lumper20

Death penalty in Washington state allows the condemned to choose lethal injection or hanging.

I think there are still a couple gallows maintained also.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 7:38:01 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: yarddog

I don’t get it either but pentobarbital’s maker refuses to allow it to be used for executions. I didn’t think they could do that.


32 posted on 01/16/2014 7:38:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: slumber1
What’s wrong with hanging?

I understand that, if you don't get the drop JUST RIGHT, heads come off. And drawers fill with poop. Not sure where I heard these things…just some of the detritus stuffed in the recesses of the cranium over the decades.

33 posted on 01/16/2014 7:38:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: workerbee

Yep. 25 years (1989-2014, not 25 minutes.


34 posted on 01/16/2014 7:39:50 PM PST by tdscpa
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To: The Great RJ

AP is lying.

Again.

I’m so shocked.

NOT!

You can’t spell crAP without the AP.


35 posted on 01/16/2014 7:40:08 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: DJ MacWoW

So this POS raped and murdered a woman who probably died in a state of abject terror, but we’re supposed to shed tears that he had a few uncomfy moments when he died?

He got off easy. My vote would have been to put him a vat of boiling oil.


36 posted on 01/16/2014 7:40:11 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hell i wish it took a week or maybe a couple of weeks


37 posted on 01/16/2014 7:41:01 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Slyfox

Precisely. What exactly is capital punishment if not an eye for an eye?


38 posted on 01/16/2014 7:42:35 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; JudyinCanada

Hadn’t thought about this much, but I think Judy is onto something. The State should not indulge the emotion attendant to the circumstances, but make a way for efficient, yet respectful way of transferring this person from the present life into the life to come where there will be no more pain or death. Self-control and discipline should attend an execution as a way of testifying to proper conduct as opposed to the conduct of the offender.

It is tempting to pick up a baseball bat, yes. But together we seek a means more respectful, because in wielding the sword of justice there is also honor. There is also something to be said for mercy even while imparting death.

Perhaps some choices ought to be made available. In the end, however, it seems appropriate to anesthetize and then go a step further.


39 posted on 01/16/2014 7:44:23 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Arthurio

Slow descent, feet first, into a people shredder, just like Saddam’s kids used to play with.


40 posted on 01/16/2014 7:44:52 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

20 minutes sounds about right to me, considering.


41 posted on 01/16/2014 7:46:03 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Actually capital punishment is to protect society from people who have already committed at least one murder. If they can’t live within society they need to be removed.


42 posted on 01/16/2014 7:48:38 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: ClearCase_guy
THAT allows the Anti-Death Penalty freaks to stand up and say, “You monsters!”

Yes. Exactly.

43 posted on 01/16/2014 7:48:56 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I agree. Capital punishment isn’t about revenge, it’s about protecting society.


44 posted on 01/16/2014 7:50:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: entropy12
Guillotine takes fraction of a second.

I hear that for about 10 seconds, the eyes can still see, and they feel pain, which I don't care about, but maybe people have picked up the head, and showed him his body laying over there. Talk about torture, but then again, I don't care. Is that sadistic or what? I call it poetic justice.

45 posted on 01/16/2014 7:50:34 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: DJ MacWoW
CNN reports ten minutes.[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3112525/posts]

APparently, the AP fudge factor is to multiply by two. The key word in both stories is "APpeared" to gasp. Given the drug mixture, he is unlikely to have been conscious.

The convulsions are a reflex, reported by anti-death penalty concern trolls, who're horrified by the "slow, agonizing death" of an unconscious convicted murderer, on death row just two years shy of the total time his victim was alive.

Faster, please.

46 posted on 01/16/2014 7:52:16 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Next time just shoot him.


47 posted on 01/16/2014 7:54:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have an idea. Let’s tell them the pentobarbitolal is for a gay execution. Then if they refuse, the state Supreme Court will FORCE them to do business with the gay customer.

Problem solved.


48 posted on 01/16/2014 7:55:07 PM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Arthurio

Thank you! Should rape him and kill him how?


49 posted on 01/16/2014 7:55:39 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Sounds like the firing squad is as fast as a speeding bullet.

I’ve had drugs knock me out for a couple of medical things in the past, and I was gone in just a few blinks and had no idea what they did to me at that time.

They could have cut my head off at the time, and I wouldn’t have known it til I woke up and saw myself still lying on the bed.


50 posted on 01/16/2014 7:55:42 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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