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The Coming GOP Amnesty Sellout Push
The Daily Caller ^ | 1/20/2014 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 01/20/2014 4:15:21 AM PST by markomalley

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1 posted on 01/20/2014 4:15:21 AM PST by markomalley
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>> Mark Zuckerberg ($50 million) and the Chamber of Commerce

Do these folks care about the “pre-existing” labor force?


2 posted on 01/20/2014 4:17:04 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: markomalley
Analyzing this issue in the context of employment statistics and the nation's labor pool really misses the whole point.

The push for amnesty isn't driven by a desire to import more cheap labor (otherwise, why would many the same interests pushing for amnesty also be pushing for minimum wage hikes that will only drive employment levels down?). This whole thing -- from the Chamber of Commerce to public-sector labor unions to the elected officials who are firmly in their back pockets -- is driven by the perceived need to get more consumers into the U.S.

This is the inevitable "end-game" for a nation that has run its course in history and is now positioned as a fading empire whose only purpose is to feed a massive consumer/entitlement culture. The U.S. government would even be fully on board with a plan to allow 10 million hardened criminals from other countries to become citizens tomorrow ... because there's always a major interest out there who sees them as a huge business opportunity (the "law enforcement industrial complex," comprised of police officers, lawyers, the prison management sector, etc.).

3 posted on 01/20/2014 4:30:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Gene Eric
but also future consulting contracts and lobbying positions for those who echo the line that Republicans just have to do this to remain viable.

As long as it is in the interest of individual congressmen to do the wrong thing, well . . .

If the States were represented in the Senate, there isn't a chance amnesty would go anywhere. It is past time recognize that our system rewards good men to do wrong. We must return to the better system of our framers, which prodded less than virtuous men to do the right thing.

4 posted on 01/20/2014 4:31:58 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Gene Eric

all abut the cheapest labor possible


5 posted on 01/20/2014 4:42:56 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: markomalley

They will do what thy jolly well please. But, I hope they understand if they do this I will never vote for a Republican canidate for anything again. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of special intrest groups instead of “We the People”!
Freegards
LEX


6 posted on 01/20/2014 4:48:16 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: markomalley

When you grant amnesty to 11 million invading fence jumpers you also ring the bell to at least another 10 million come on up!If I was sitting in a hut in El Salvador I would come up to American, learn the ropes of working under the table,and find my acorn navigator to teach me how to game the system. Who will stop me? I can do whatever I want and take from the stupid gringos,if anyone says anything I’ll cry racism!


7 posted on 01/20/2014 4:50:49 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: markomalley
RE “1) There will be some form of legalization (conditional amnesty) for the 11 million illegal immigrants already here. It won’t give them a “special” path to citizenship, but they will likely be able to pursue citizenship through regular old channels. Either way, the message sent to potential future immigrants will be, “If you come here illegally, you’ll get to stay legally.” Plus, once the bill has passed the Democratic campaign to paint the GOP as racist for not granting general citizenship to the whole group will begin”

One can imagine Dems playing it that way, yet I have yet to hear a single Dem say that he/she would vote for a bill that has no citizenship in it.

Plus if the Dems were to go along with it and vote for it that makes it harder for them to run against it, especially in the short term.

Voting rights is a big issue for Dems, like against voter IDs, and trying to get back those VRA provisions.
Getting illegals the vote is what they are after.

8 posted on 01/20/2014 5:07:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Alberta's Child

it’s not about cheap labor, we have plenty here who would do anything for a job

it’s not about more consumers

it’s about Democrat votes before the elections


9 posted on 01/20/2014 5:10:04 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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it’s about Democrat votes before the elections

For Democrats, yes. But the people pushing hardest right now are the Chamber of Commerce, and they want cheap labor. If fact, they stated they won't support any Republican nominee who runs against amnesty in the primary.

10 posted on 01/20/2014 5:29:56 AM PST by Hugin
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To: markomalley

Change that to read RINO-GOP Party. The party that I was once a member of, the GOP, has died, like most of the country.


11 posted on 01/20/2014 5:31:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I hope they understand if they do this I will never vote for a Republican candidate for anything again

I agree with you. We're way past where we should accept that "our guy" voted the correct way, so we should stick by him. It's all a game of musical chairs, and they take turns voting with their constituents so they can get re-elected while still destroying the US.

If this passes, there's no point in having an opposition. Why should any constitutional conservative support a party that only cares about concentrating wealth and power upward, to the elite?

Cruz/RandPaul 2016......our only chance to save the US!

12 posted on 01/20/2014 5:40:07 AM PST by grania
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To: Gene Eric; markomalley

Haley Barbour said yesterday on some news show that Americans won’t work in chicken factories or on farms.

He SAID that those working on farms are ILLEGALS, and hinted that it’s the same in chicken factories.

OF COURSE, they won’t take a job taking $5 an hour under the table. Get rid of the illegal serf wage labor, and force them to pay a market rate, what free people will trade their labor for to do that job, and it’ll be packed with job applicants.

Will our prices go up? Only temporarily. Efficiencies will eventually dominate. I watched a grape picking machine driving down a row of grape vines not too long ago. It needed a driver, but it didn’t need 50 pickers.

Serf wage is the enemy of efficiency.


13 posted on 01/20/2014 5:44:57 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

‘I will never vote for a Republican candidate ever again’.......

ALL due respect, but they don ‘t give a flying fig who you vote for .......or IF you vote ........if they are successful in passing amnesty......and I mean Republicans.

They want amnesty just as much as the Dems......

Our Republic is finished........thrown into the dungheap of history......and our vote is not worth the paper it is printed on


14 posted on 01/20/2014 5:53:39 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: markomalley

Sellout

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The Republicans are good at something. Caving in and selling out is what they do. Its how they roll.


15 posted on 01/20/2014 6:07:26 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re analysis is dead on. And despite the lip service some pay to our position on this, money talks. You can COUNT on us being sold out. As they say, it’s all about the Benjamins.

These people (which is why I LOATHE news entertainment) are in it for the money and not for America.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 6:29:48 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: markomalley

American won’t have to work; the illegals will work and pay taxes so we can retire. Great campaign commercial in this somewhere.... Even a welfare IDO!T could understand an errors ion of their “entitlement”.


17 posted on 01/20/2014 6:34:45 AM PST by Jumper
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To: markomalley

Something that should be pointed out to the Republican leadership, if they have any pattern recognition.

1) Republicans ended slavery, used Reconstruction to elevate former slaves into positions of political power, opposed Jim Crow laws, and forced Civil Rights law on the South. In return, since the Civil Rights era, blacks have almost exclusively voted for Democrats.

2) Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens, under president Ronald Reagan. Hispanics of all ages in the U.S. today are more than twice as likely to identify with or lean to the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.

Thus, the Republican leadership should stop ignoring patterns like the Democrats do. If they reward citizens of foreign countries at the expense of American citizens, yet get politically punished for doing so by those foreign citizens, obviously they need to rethink their strategy.


18 posted on 01/20/2014 6:42:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Gene Eric
'Do these folks care about the “pre-existing” labor force?'

'AND THE FACT THAT ANY AGRICULTURAL ENGINEER WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NOT ONE ...CROP...NOT ONE...THAT CAN NOT BE SAFELY AND ECONOMICALLY PICKED BY A MACHINE?

SEEMS LIKE THERE'D BE A VAST ADVANTAGE PICKING US CROPS WITH US WORKERS OPERATING THESE MACHINES....

AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?
19 posted on 01/20/2014 6:50:36 AM PST by jimsin
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“They” don’t care if you never vote for a Republican candidate again; in fact “they” may not do so themselves as well. Many could switch parties after amnesty arrives in hopes of riding to more federal gravy on the winning train. The American people are simply incapable of responding in the crisis at hand.


20 posted on 01/20/2014 7:03:51 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans can't wait until March 4 to nominate Cornball and George P.!)
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