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Too old to be given cancer treatment: NHS is 'writing off' patients who are over 75
Daily Mail ^ | 1/23/14 | Jenny Hope

Posted on 01/25/2014 5:24:32 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Nervous Tick

stage 3 isn’t a given death sentence. especialy 3a. you over-generalize.


61 posted on 01/25/2014 6:24:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>> you over-generalize

You sure it’s me that’s over-generalizing?


62 posted on 01/25/2014 6:26:12 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Kackikat
WELL SAID!!

Whats scary is...some Freepers are starting to believe in Unicon poop instead of financial reality...

“Wouldn't it be nice if they we “skittles””

63 posted on 01/25/2014 6:26:26 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Nervous Tick
Why wait? They and their enablers are aborting enough white babies in a year that if allowed to live would help turn this country around. My mind reels when I think how many future Reagan's, Eisenhower's, Patton's, Armstrong's and people who could grow up free with the power and vision to heal and nurture this great land. They are being massacerd by the truckload everyday. Jesus Wept.
64 posted on 01/25/2014 6:26:38 PM PST by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: Libloather

“Government compassion.”

The moral question here is the easy part. Everybody should get treated, no matter what their age.

The question of who pays for it, is considerably more complex.

When governments do not have the money, who pays?


65 posted on 01/25/2014 6:27:37 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Libloather

But if you have a private health insurance plan...oh, wait, we are doing away with those.


66 posted on 01/25/2014 6:30:05 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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67 posted on 01/25/2014 6:31:48 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s gonna come in handy as 0DeathCare rolls out.


68 posted on 01/25/2014 6:33:41 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Libloather

The best way to head off widespread government euthanasia here is family revenge. That is, to let the “angel of death” medical people know that unnatural death is murder, and if they murder, they will face the fate of murderers.

The trick is to find some way of connecting a family whose respected elder has been murdered, with an executioner with no known connection to them. This suggests an organization that is basically a “Revenge, Inc.”

The original “Murder, Inc.” subcontracted for organized crime mobs in the 1930s and 1940s, and may have killed some 400-1000 people before they were broken up. This shows how difficult it is to stop such an organization.

And because the primary purpose of “Revenge, Inc.” is not money, but to prevent “legal murder” by frightening the murderers into *not* murdering, if carried out with some intelligence, it would likely achieve its goal by just killing a dozen serial killer medical personnel.


69 posted on 01/25/2014 6:34:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: M-cubed

Of course we want to help heal everyone, but some things aren’t going to be healed...we have to learn to know the difference. No one should be subjected to a government saying they can’t receive treatment, but neither should an Oncologist order Chemo and receive payment himself for continuing to treat someone who should be in Hospice, and who should spend the last few months of their life with family and friends saying a peaceful goodbye, even if that means on Morphine.

I saw this abuse firsthand and was appalled, and had the man not have had such great insurance, it would not have happened. This was years ago, and long before this Healthcare battle. Thanks.


70 posted on 01/25/2014 6:35:09 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: M-cubed

What is ‘Skittles”? I do not understand that comment.


71 posted on 01/25/2014 6:36:45 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“The Soviet system and today’s Russian system treat people with cancer, even the elderly.”

Oh, I agree, they had, and the Russians have, a pretty good health care system - but my point was, with the life expectancy as it was, they could afford to do that, with very few people actually getting “old”!

An idea that I though was very good in the Eastern Bloc, was the idea of an entire hospital dedicated to one single type of illness or type of surgery. Look at it this way, regardless of what the AMA thinks, some doctors are better than others. But if you do something a lot, eventually you will get fairly good at it.


72 posted on 01/25/2014 6:42:55 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Who made the decision, your doctor or your government?”|

Neither, I do, with the Word.


73 posted on 01/25/2014 6:44:37 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: laplata

Im glad you told that to her because she will be the first to be put in the back of the line or be told “Your just too old to live, you won’t be a productive member of society, you have nothing more to contribute.” What I Fear the most is NHS deciding who lives and who dies based on political leanings..you know that is what the left wants most, to decide your fate based on who you voted for..it would be a medical holocaust


74 posted on 01/25/2014 6:45:39 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kackikat

“I saw this abuse firsthand and was appalled, and had the man not have had such great insurance, it would not have happened. This was years ago, and long before this Healthcare battle. Thanks.”

I saw this too, in another way, with another type of illness. The situation was absolutely hopeless, but they did “everything possible”... that was, until the Medicare money ran out. Then, it was immediately off to the nursing home/hospice.


75 posted on 01/25/2014 6:46:45 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Libloather

Ezekiel Emanuel, the architect of Obamacare has proposed to similarly ration care to the elderly and the very young because they are of less value to society...very little different that the Nazis.


76 posted on 01/25/2014 6:48:02 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Las Vegas Ron
You really don't get it do you? <<

I'm not sure u get it when u have to questions someones “positive experience” with questions that don't apply...

Go back and read the statement...do u agree or disagree?

77 posted on 01/25/2014 6:49:38 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: laplata

No one has *ever* died needlessly. Progressives are in the business of cheapening life, but it is not a successful business though they believe otherwise with all their might and intellect.


78 posted on 01/25/2014 6:49:49 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: RFEngineer

“When governments do not have the money, who pays?”

And THIS is the ugly question, isn’t it?

Here’s one: my 95-year old grandmother’s arm disintegrated from osteoporosis. There was nothing to “set” - it turned to dust, basically. The cheap fix would have been to cut the arm off - after all, it isn’t like she was going to do manual labor again, and plenty of people get around with one arm...but they replaced the bone with plastic, which surely was a lot more expensive. Was it worth it? About a year after calling her physical therapist “an agent of Satan”...she thought so.


79 posted on 01/25/2014 6:53:32 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: cloudmountain

I’m allergic to narcotics.

Would you dispatch NICE with a bullet?


80 posted on 01/25/2014 6:53:41 PM PST by Black Agnes
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