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Texas hospital to take pregnant, brain-dead woman off ventilator (Update: It's been done)
CNN ^ | January 26, 2014 | Matt Smith and Jason Morris

Posted on 01/26/2014 11:20:25 AM PST by Zakeet

A Texas hospital has agreed to remove a pregnant and brain-dead woman from a ventilator, after a wrenching court fight about who is alive, who is dead and how the presence of a fetus changes the equation.

Sunday's announcement came two days after a judge in Fort Worth ordered John Peter Smith Hospital to remove any artificial means of life support from Marlise Munoz, as her family had asked. The hospital had said it was following a state law that requires hospitals to maintain life-sustaining treatment for a pregnant patient.

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[Breaking news update, 1:50 p.m. ET]

The brain-dead and pregnant Texas woman at the center of a wrenching court battle has been removed from ventilators, lawyers for her family said Sunday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: deathpeddlers; life; texas
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To: Jrabbit

No, everyone thinks it is a sad situation.


301 posted on 01/26/2014 9:03:42 PM PST by kaila
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To: Jrabbit

It certainly doesn’t please me how could you even think it did? At least the family can now get on with mourning this terrible loss. They have been hanging by a thread since late Nov. Its over now and they can mourn in private.

Have you ever mourned for a lost child? I have and it is the worst thing in the world, to have to do it in the public eye would make it even worse.


302 posted on 01/26/2014 9:09:19 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Who made it public? I am truly sorry for your loss of a child. I don’t see any mourning for this child....


303 posted on 01/26/2014 9:18:34 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

Interesting...you have inside info to the family and their mourning process? Do tell.


304 posted on 01/26/2014 9:36:03 PM PST by berdie
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To: berdie

I didn’t realize you know the family....if so, perhaps you know why the baby is never mentioned? Except for a comment from EM when this 1st went public and the press release from the lawyers on EMs behalf about how “deformed” they claim the baby is...was...


305 posted on 01/26/2014 10:15:04 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

I don’t know the family.

I suspect you don’t either.


306 posted on 01/26/2014 10:27:57 PM PST by berdie
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To: Mom MD
. . . the baby has deteriorated drastically with multiple severe deformities and was highly unlikely to survive.

Yeah, so let's kill it. I didn't have to read the details. We'll guarantee that it won't survive. That's what Jesus would do, right? Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. And what a great country we live in, right?

307 posted on 01/26/2014 10:28:32 PM PST by laweeks
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To: lastchance

How is it gossip to point out facts and then a conclusion


308 posted on 01/27/2014 5:06:20 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RobbyS

There is the perception that because the mother was breathing that she could be fed with a tube and all would be ok.

Unstated and unknown is what body systems (the body is a collection of organs, systems and subsystems) were shut down. The mother’s blood is a carrier for all sorts of hormones and chemicals very specifically female and intended to provide very specialized nourishment beyond just calories to the developing child.

When the mother is dead, the systems don’t function and the child development succombs

The Chemo-mecho process device cessation is the problem


309 posted on 01/27/2014 5:15:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Tennessee Nana

BookMark


310 posted on 01/27/2014 5:32:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: yldstrk

“How is it gossip to point out facts and then a conclusion”

Because your facts don’t support your conclusion, and in fact you have provided no evidence to support your conclusion.

Also, your conclusion is illogical. If Mr. Munoz had somehow caused the pulmonary embolism that killed Mrs. Munoz, why would he then have performed CPR on her? He found her in the middle of the night - if he wanted her dead, he could have easily “found” her couple of hours later, when CPR would have been entirely futile, and she would never have been placed on life support to begin with.


311 posted on 01/27/2014 7:55:52 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: laweeks

Jesus would have compassion on a family forced to make a terrible decision with no good answers. I’m sure He is proud of your self righteousness though. I’m disgusted with people like you who give the pro life movement and Christians a bad name. I hope you never have to deal with a situation like this, because I wouldnt wish it even on you.


312 posted on 01/27/2014 8:33:55 AM PST by Mom MD (I)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; yldstrk

Thanks for saving me the trouble. I was so jarred from my chin hitting the floor upon reading yldstrk’s reply it left my addled for quite some time.


313 posted on 01/27/2014 9:02:25 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Mom MD
I’m disgusted with people like you who give the pro life movement and Christians a bad name

If trying to keep all unborn babies alive and away from animals like Obama, then I'll proudly be PROLIFE. Sorry that you feel that unborn children are such a problem. I can't find anything Christian about murdering an unborn child. I'm sure you can.

314 posted on 01/27/2014 9:11:43 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

why would he then have performed CPR on her?
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How do you know that he did ???

we only have his word that he did so..

it may also be that he didn’t..


315 posted on 01/27/2014 10:40:03 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

He found her in the middle of the night - if he wanted her dead, he could have easily “found” her couple of hours later,
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how do you know that “He found her in the middle of the night”

He could have just as easily found her a couple of hours earlier too..


316 posted on 01/27/2014 10:41:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

when CPR would have been entirely futile, and she would never have been placed on life support to begin with
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she wasn’t at first..

then the hospital discovered she was pregnant so they had to due to the law..

but there’s nothing about him telling the hospital she was pregnant..

and yet he must have known the law..

he was such an “expert” in all things medical...


317 posted on 01/27/2014 10:45:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

she would never have been placed on life support to begin with.
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why not ???

maybe because he kept the fact she was pregnant from the hospital ???

the hospital doctors did find out for themselves


318 posted on 01/27/2014 10:47:30 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’ve read some articles thathe found her in the living room floor and one in Star-Telegram that says he found her in kitchen floor? (that same article says he punched a hole in the wall, not sure if before he called 9-1-1 or not?)


319 posted on 01/27/2014 10:48:30 AM PST by pnz1
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To: pnz1

I’ve read some articles thathe found her in the living room floor and one in Star-Telegram that says he found her in kitchen floor?
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Yes there are several articles with either the living room or the kitchen..


320 posted on 01/27/2014 10:50:51 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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