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Texas hospital to take pregnant, brain-dead woman off ventilator (Update: It's been done)
CNN ^ | January 26, 2014 | Matt Smith and Jason Morris

Posted on 01/26/2014 11:20:25 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: Sarah Barracuda
Weren't we playing God when we put her on the ventilator?

You just don't get it. We interfered in the first place. And they said the baby was not viable.

41 posted on 01/26/2014 12:14:37 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I wanted to see that child born

I'm sure they did too, it just wasn't meant to be....Tragic all around. The family deserves our prayers, not our scorn.

42 posted on 01/26/2014 12:14:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Ultrasounds showing the degree of deformity reported are not wrong. This child had very little chance at life and no chance at normal life.


43 posted on 01/26/2014 12:14:46 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: blu
Really, this is none of our business.

Worth repeating.

44 posted on 01/26/2014 12:17:11 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

This is nothing like that case at all.


45 posted on 01/26/2014 12:17:13 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: MHGinTN

He gives us the free will to cause and allow things to happen also.

And still He loves us.


46 posted on 01/26/2014 12:18:09 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Mom MD

Its sad all the way around, at least now mother and baby are together in heaven


47 posted on 01/26/2014 12:18:23 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And I think sadness is the correct response, not scorn and condemnation for a family making a horrible decision that I hope none of us have to face..... They are in my prayers today.


48 posted on 01/26/2014 12:19:38 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The mother was found in her house, with greater than 5 minutes of oxygen deprivation. The fetus, then suffered the same amount of oxygen deprivation. The fetus also had hydrocephalus, cardiac abnormalities, and deformed lower extremities. This would not result in a normal existence. Terribly sad for the family, mom and baby.


49 posted on 01/26/2014 12:19:53 PM PST by kaila
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To: Mom MD

I worked at a group home. Every single one of those residents was a ward of the state and all were profoundly developmentally disabled. THey did not have any chance at a normal life. Using this argument, we should have lined them up and killed them?


50 posted on 01/26/2014 12:22:00 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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How long does it take the fetus to die, to suffer?


51 posted on 01/26/2014 12:22:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Zakeet

What do you mean by that? Using the words of Christ as He paid our debt does not apply here. This was a tragedy, but hardly of the kind or scope of the crucifixion. An already dead mother and dying baby were released to go on to their reward that Christ won for them. Sadness is appropriate, and thankfulness that most of us have never had to face such a situation.


52 posted on 01/26/2014 12:22:59 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: chae

Of course not. But this child was not killed. The child was dying and not capable of independent survival as the residents of your group home were. Two very different situations.


53 posted on 01/26/2014 12:24:15 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Zakeet

Sad -— hope they were able to save the baby.


54 posted on 01/26/2014 12:25:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: berdie

later


55 posted on 01/26/2014 12:25:37 PM PST by berdie
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To: dfwgator; Mom MD
The family deserves our prayers, not our scorn.

Thank you. It is easy to condemn what we do not face ourselves. It does not help the pro-life movement to attack those who find themselves in a tragic situation.

56 posted on 01/26/2014 12:25:57 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Zakeet

This situation is sad any way that you look at it. I am a God-fearing young woman who stands strong for the rights of pre-born child. I hate the word fetus. It’s cold and unfeeling. My sister gave birth prematurely at 14 weeks, when this woman was found unconscious. I have personally seen what a child looks like at 14 weeks of gestation. It is a child. They have little fingers and toes and are beautifully and wonderfully made. I am not discounting the beautiful little life. The woman has been declared brain dead. If she were not pregnant, she would have been taken off life support, following her wishes. However, she is pregnant. At that point, I would like to know the physical state of the child. He/she was left for an unknown period of time without oxygen. According to test results, the child is not viable, not simply due to gestational age, but due to physical deformities. The child is not developing and would die even if he/she was born at 37 weeks. I think instead of vilifying the poor father, I think we should recognize that he just lost a child and wife and show compassion.


57 posted on 01/26/2014 12:26:56 PM PST by thedeaconschild
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The woman was 14 weeks pregnant when she collapsed and subsequently died. A non viable fetus is not meant to be kept alive inside what is essentially a corpse with organs that are kept functioning through artificial means. If the baby had been close to term enough where it could survive with or without medical intervention I would be in favor of the hospital doing a C section. But this was a travesty. When a pregnant woman dies before the child is ready to be born the child dies too. Sad as it is, that is the truth.

If a brain dead pregnant woman’s body is to be kept functioning in order for a fetus to reach viability why not argue that the wombs of female coma patients be used to implant embryos for infertile women? After all if we reduce a human being to the functionality of his or her organs it seems such a waste to worry about things like human dignity.

A mother and child are dead. May the family find peace to bury their dead and mourn.


58 posted on 01/26/2014 12:27:24 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: bert
Allow me to write it in more acceptable language:

So, what king of god do you want? If God is aware of everything and knows what's coming, and bad stuff happens, do you want a god who is to be found guilty of the bad stuff because that god allowed it to happen?

59 posted on 01/26/2014 12:27:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Zakeet

Lord have mercy on them for taking the baby’s life.


60 posted on 01/26/2014 12:28:24 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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