Posted on 01/26/2014 11:20:25 AM PST by Zakeet
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If there were such severe deformities, would it have been wrong to bring the child into the air world (born of water) and allow the child to expire if at that point physicians examine the child and find that in fact the defromities are too great? Or should alive children regardless of how severely they’re deformed to be terminate in the womb? ... I ask because I don’t have an answer for that one.
Check out these attributes of God.
1. God is eternal, i.e., always was, is, and ever will be.
2. God is omnipresent, i.e., He is in every place.
3. God is immutable, i.e., He ever remains the same.
4. God is omniscient, i.e., He knows all things, the past, the
present, and the future, and also our inmost thoughts (Jer. xvii.
10).
5. God is supremely wise, i.e., He knows how to direct every
thing for the best in order to carry out His designs.
6. God is almighty, i.e., God can do all that He wills, and that
by a mere act of His will.
7. God is supremely good, i.e., He loves His creatures far more
than a father loves his children.
9. God is full of mercy and compassion, i.e., He very readily
forgives our sins when we are sincerely sorry for them.
10. God is infinitely holy, i.e., He loves good and hates all evil.
11. God is infinitely just, i.e., He rewards all good and pun-
ishes all evil deeds.
12. God is a God of perfect truth, i.e., all that He reveals to
man is true.
God allowed it to happen as a consequence of sin. But He also provided redemption and new life beyond the tragedy at unfathomable cost to Himself. It is our choice whether we take His offer
I agree with you. This baby was not listening to the sound of its mothers voice, feeling her movements, and being exposed to the daily hormone fluctuations of life. It was left in an abnormal vacuum created by man with no chance at normal development.
Acknowledging your excellent post otherwise, God doesn't make life and death decisions here on earth. We became responsible for our actions and sin after Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge, the original sin.
Everything from that point forward is our fault and we are responsible, not God. Yes, this woman's death is a tragedy however it was not God's "decision."
You have expressed my feelings on the matter exactly. Extreme measures are just that... extreme. Not taking them them is not anti-life, but an acknowledgment that we aren’t God.
I don’t think either course is wrong and both are tragic. Personally I would not choose to mutilate the body of a loved one to surgically deliver a deteriorating and non viable child not would I put the child through whatever pain they were still capable of feeling during the birth and resuscitation process. But others could see it differently. We make the best decisions we can in horrible situations
...”They are in my prayers today”....
Mine as well...
....this decision is one no family wants to make...but is made every day when faced with life support issues. My family had to make such a decision twice to let family members go... It’s very difficult.
I think the family’s and Doctors decision on Nov. 28th should have stood.
I was actually thinking of Senator Santorum’s child who was born severely deformed and die minutes following delivery. I don’t have an adequate answer for that scenario yet, but it is not irrelevant and perhaps we who are busily discussing this raft of issues are one reason to believe God allowed this to progress to this point. I just don’t know.
You infer whatever you want. I am not going to argue with you. But, the baby had hydrocepahlus, cardiac abnormalities, and deformed lower extremities. I am just stating the facts of the case. That is not normal development. That is the fact. You can argue about pro life, and all that, but I dont want to get into that argument. I am just stating the facts. 23 weekers are too young for NICU care, also. That is another fact. I was responding to someone who stated that maybe this baby would be normal. .Don’t jump all over people who are stating the facts of this terrible situation.
Agree. Anytime a loved one is lost this way it's gut wrenching. Went through it with my younger brother in August 2012 when he passed away from a brain aneurysm. Wouldn't wish having to go through the experience on my worst enemy.
It does not help the pro-life movement
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to use the pro-abortion excuse that the baby wasn’t perfect enough to be allowed to live...
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About the unborn baby’s deformities:
Was there any source besides the family’s attorneys? That’s the only source mentioned in any CNN story I’ve read about this.
I wouldn’t consider attorneys with vested interests nor CNN to be reliable sources on the health of unborn children.
I have heard that they have done no testing on the baby in quite a while. If so, then that is strange. If they are not monitoring, then are they doing anything more than covering their behinds?
At bottom is the horrible decision of the Supreme Court to vest absolute rights on the “gravitas,” in a pregnancy and deny all recognition to the fetus. In reality, of course, the aim was to shield the abortionist from all legal reponsibility, and the only way to do this is to allow doctors to say that they owe nothing to the unborn child beyond that which the mother requests, that the state cannot demand that the unborn be treated as patients. They created the legal fiction of a separation of mother and child that does not physically exist. A pregnancy involves two entities, and during this time, the woman’s whole body is invested in providing for the child. Under the abortion right, they are treating the baby as if he were in fact a life-draining tumor/cancer that needs to be removed from the body to save her life. When the law creates a false reality, we get situations like this.
No one took the baby's life. Stop bearing false witness.
It was not because the baby was not perfect enough. It was because it was not viable.
But thanks for proving my point.
I would not think it would be in the best interest of the attorney to lie, especially with medical records as part of the evidence. I know a lot of attorneys, if they lied in front of the judge, or gave misleading statements they could face censure of lose their license. There is plenty of evidence in the medical records. Scans, ultrasounds, etc.
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