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Americans Just Aren't That Into Immigration (New poll released in advance of GOP Amnesty summit)
National Journal ^ | 1/28/14 | Matt Berman

Posted on 01/28/2014 7:45:19 AM PST by jimbo123

A new NBC NewsWall Street Journal poll shows that Americans just aren't that enthusiastic about new immigration legislation.

It's a safe bet President Obama will talk tonight during his State of the Union about the need for comprehensive immigration reform. But that plea is falling on ambivalent ears.

A new poll out Tuesday morning from NBC News and The Wall Street Journal takes a look at what issues Americans think should be a priority for 2014. The clear and obvious winner: job creation, which 91 percent of Americans say should be an absolute priority this year. (The 4 percent of Americans who say job creation shouldn't be pursued at all presumably misheard the question, we hope.) Other big priorities include reducing the federal deficit and ensuring that all children have access to pre-K.

But immigration reform? It's just right there in line with the number of people who are super-pumped for pension and entitlement reform. Just 39 percent of respondents said that new immigration legislation should be an absolute priority this year, with 42 percent saying, "Eh, wait till next year," and 17 percent saying Congress should forget about reform entirely. Those numbers are a big shift from 2006, when 47 percent of Americans said reform should have been an absolute priority that year.

The numbers are obviously not good news for reform advocates. This week, House Republicans will call for a path to legal status for undocumented residents, The New York Times reports Tuesday, but the proposal will fall short of a path to citizenship. And, as The Times reports, some Republicans are already pushing for House leaders to abandon the issue, lest it further divide the party.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; massamnesty

1 posted on 01/28/2014 7:45:20 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
RE :”Just 39 percent of respondents said that new immigration legislation should be an absolute priority this year, with 42 percent saying, “Eh, wait till next year,” and 17 percent saying Congress should forget about reform entirely.”

~ 39 % seems to be the floor for Obama’s approval rating too.

Romney missed it on the 47%, it was 39%,

2 posted on 01/28/2014 7:48:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to citizenship for illegals isa special path')
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To: sickoflibs
And how many of the 39% want immigration reform to mean more enforcement of our laws, secure borders, and a decrease in the number of legal immigrants who take jobs from Americans and depress wages?

I really question what is in the 39% number. For example, poll after poll show that blacks want to reduce the number of immigrants admitted annually.

3 posted on 01/28/2014 7:56:21 AM PST by kabar
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To: sickoflibs
I'm not so sure. If the 2012 election were rerun today, Romney would probably flip a couple more states, Florida for sure and maybe one or two others, but not enough to change the end result.

The sheeple are slow learners.

4 posted on 01/28/2014 7:57:38 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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5 posted on 01/28/2014 8:04:11 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: kabar

more enforcement of our laws...

Exactly.

There has always been a “path to citizenship”.

Enforce it and move on to other issues.


6 posted on 01/28/2014 8:06:56 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Vigilanteman
RE :”I'm not so sure.”

Which part of my comment are you not so sure about?

7 posted on 01/28/2014 8:08:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to citizenship for illegals isa special path')
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To: kabar

“And how many of the 39% want immigration reform to mean more enforcement of our laws, secure borders, and a decrease in the number of legal immigrants who take jobs from Americans and depress wages? “

Actually, the definition of “reform” has come to mean “citizenship.” So, probably not many. That’s the 39% of the population who see a world entirely different than the one conservatives see. (Their world contains fairy dust to power appliances and unicorns to power our cars.)


8 posted on 01/28/2014 8:08:45 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: sickoflibs
Only 39% of the sheeple may still approve of Bammy at his lowest point, but at least another 10% of them would vote to re-elect him anyway because they would swallow the enemedia line that the GOP candidate is so much worse.
9 posted on 01/28/2014 8:13:59 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I see, you are trying to get back to the 47%.

Maybe since a GOP candidate would be demanded to come up with an alternative to Obamacare, and that would make nearly everyone mad.

In a midterm the GOP doesnt really get judged on an alternative, because Obama would kill it anyway.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 8:18:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to citizenship for illegals isa special path')
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To: kabar
RE :”And how many of the 39% want immigration reform to mean more enforcement of our laws, secure borders, and a decrease in the number of legal immigrants who take jobs from Americans and depress wages? “

Legalization of those who were brought here as kids and grew up here, graduated from school, maybe in college, isn't nearly as unpopular out there as it would seem from comments here.

The other amnesty selling point that seems to work is that registered illegals are better than those roaming around hidden committing fraud.

I also know Dems who argue that legalizing them will help American workers because they claim that illegals are paid less than laws force employers to pay Americans, undercutting workers.

11 posted on 01/28/2014 8:20:00 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to citizenship for illegals isa special path')
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To: jimbo123

Bam!


12 posted on 01/28/2014 8:21:33 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: jimbo123

39%? How many illegals were polled?


13 posted on 01/28/2014 8:29:45 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Gen.Blather
Actually, the definition of “reform” has come to mean “citizenship.”

Actually, as someone who has worked on this issue for 7 years and lobbies on the Hill and Richmond for immigration reform, most Americans are very uniformed about the immigration issue and have no idea what comprehensive immigration reform really means.

For example, most have no idea as to how many legal immigrants actually enter each year. My organization had a booth at CPAC for four years and we found that even most of those more politically aware than the average citizen had no idea on how may legal immigrants came each year. The most common estimate was between 50,000 and 75,000. We commissioned a poll that contained questions that provided the official statistics and the responses were very revealing.

Most Americans will agree with the idea of "reform" and have no idea what reform encompasses including citizenship.

14 posted on 01/28/2014 8:50:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: jimbo123

A Combat Vet named Garza has published his opinion that says how I feel about this violation of the US Constitution.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 8:56:41 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: sickoflibs
Legalization of those who were brought here as kids and grew up here, graduated from school, maybe in college, isn't nearly as unpopular out there as it would seem from comments here.

Agree. It sounds good. It is all about the children. However, once people understand the details of these Dreamer proposals, they are not so supportive. These "children" can be 35 years old or brought to this country at age 16 and still qualify for a path to citizenship. It is a scam to legalize their parents and extended family members. And that doesn't include the 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year who automatically become US citizens.

The other amnesty selling point that seems to work is that registered illegals are better than those roaming around hidden committing fraud.

The estimated 2 million criminal aliens won't register. And how many would actually register if they believed that they could be deported should they violate our laws? Even legal immigrants (green card holders) are subject to deportation prior to achieving citizenship.

If registering means no deportation, a work permit, traveling freely back and forth between their home countries, sponsoring family members to join them, etc., how do you justify putting them at the head of the line by allowing them to stay and work here while millions who followed the law are waiting their turn overseas? Why reward the lawbreakers? What message does it sent to those who are thinking of entering illegally?

I also know Dems who argue that legalizing them will help American workers because they claim that illegals are paid less than laws force employers to pay Americans, undercutting workers.

LOL. So by legalizing the status of the lawbreakers and allowing them to compete on a level playing field with American workers will help both? The attractive part of illegal workers is that you can pay them off the books and you don't have to adhere to the required employment rules. They are exploitable labor who don't have recourse to the government to protect their rights.

American workers will still be at a disadvantage. The greater the legal supply, the less employers will have to pay in compensation. It depresses wages. And when you legalize the lawbreakers, it increases the attractiveness for new lawbreakers to come in and fill the vacuum. These new illegal workers will undercut those legalized and American workers.

16 posted on 01/28/2014 9:09:38 AM PST by kabar
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To: jimbo123

Americans weren’t much into Obamacare either, but here we are gagging on it .... you’d think Pubbies would have learned a lesson, but then again, it’s not about what’s best for the country (see tagline).


17 posted on 01/28/2014 9:28:53 AM PST by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: jimbo123

the gop go buy the amnesty lie are the same idots who bought the hilary primary voters shifting to mccain.

They also liked the gaymmy show entirely.

Amnesty equals incumband DC job security act.


18 posted on 01/28/2014 10:05:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The RINO’s don’t care what their “potential” voters want


19 posted on 01/28/2014 10:12:59 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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