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Immigration push unlikely this year, lawmaker [RYAN] says
AP via BostonGlobe.com ^ | 2 February 201 | Philip Elliott

Posted on 02/02/2014 11:31:25 AM PST by Fractal Trader

Edited on 02/02/2014 11:33:29 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Days after House Republicans unveiled a roadmap for an overhaul of the nationís broken immigration system, one of its backers said legislation is unlikely to pass during this election year.

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said distrust of President Barack Obama runs so deep in the Republican caucus that heís skeptical the GOP-led House would pass any immigration measure. He said a plan that puts security first could only pass if lawmakers believe the administration would enforce it ó an unlikely prospect given Republicansí deep opposition to Obama.


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Captain Obvious here:

He said a plan that puts security first could only pass if lawmakers believe the administration would enforce it — an unlikely prospect given Republicans’ deep opposition to Obama.

1 posted on 02/02/2014 11:31:25 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Let’s hope that we have put this divisive issue behind us so that we can focus on demolishing the Democrats in the next election.


2 posted on 02/02/2014 11:32:34 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

They are going to wait for the lame duck session to pass unpopular laws.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 11:34:19 AM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Fractal Trader

The Marxocrats will push Boehner to pass Amnesty BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.. This must NOT happen!


4 posted on 02/02/2014 11:35:24 AM PST by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: Obama_Is_A_Feminist

That’s what I’m afraid of. Here’s video of me at Alipac on immigration “reform” and amnesty.

http://www.alipac.us/f12/stop-boehner-stop-amnesty-eric-gurr-congress-292788/


5 posted on 02/02/2014 11:36:43 AM PST by EricGurr
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To: Fractal Trader

Why should the GOP pass anything? We all know that if the House passes a law prescribing the size of a thimble, the Senate could take it up, pass it and the 0bama regime could interpret this as universal US voting rights and welfare for anyone on the planet.


6 posted on 02/02/2014 11:38:34 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Good news. Rush Limbaugh has been scorching on this Republican amnesty. Maybe some Republican fence sitters got constituent phone calls that nudged them to NO ON AMNESTY


7 posted on 02/02/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Fractal Trader
RE: “Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said distrust of President Barack Obama runs so deep in the Republican caucus that he’s skeptical the GOP-led House would pass any immigration measure.”

Actually, I distrust the GOP leadership, including Paul Ryan, all of whom support Amnesty.

8 posted on 02/02/2014 11:39:08 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Fractal Trader

“Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said distrust of President Barack Obama runs so deep in the Republican caucus that he’s skeptical the GOP-led House would pass any immigration measure. He said a plan that puts security first could only pass if lawmakers believe the administration would enforce it — an unlikely prospect given Republicans’ deep opposition to Obama.”

BS, the only way this does not pass is if Bonehead determines even with 100% of the dems voting for it, almost every one of the GOP caucus votes against it. That will not happen. So, there must also be some number of dems who will not vote for amnesty, not many, but enough to make bonehead toe the line, till next year.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 11:39:49 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Fractal Trader
Captain Obvious

No kidding. How these back-stabbing cowards ever thought they could get this through in such a year as this, is totally beyond me.

Personally, I think they went through the motions of this ridiculous kabuki dance to satisfy their corporate masters. The American people are in no mood for this foolishness, while 90 million legal citizens are out of work, and Obamacare is wrecking their health care.

I guarantee you there isn't a single political consultant who thought this was a good idea. Well, maybe not on the right. The ones on the left probably think it's a wonderful idea.

10 posted on 02/02/2014 11:43:00 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Ryan is a stinking GOPe rat lying through his scumbag teeth. He knows pushing amnesty this close to elections will cause some of his lib republican buddies to get tossed out of their cushy little club. Much better to wait until after primary season to screw the base.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 11:43:57 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Fractal Trader

RE: “Let’s hope that we have put this divisive issue behind us so that we can focus on demolishing the Democrats in the next election.”

This issue will NEVER be behind us.

McConnell, Boehner, and Ryan will try to pass Amnesty 24 hours after the 2014 election.

And we are NOT going to demolish the Democrats because, once again, GOP leaders like Paul Ryan have utterly demoralized Conservatives.

My on the record most optimistic 2014 prediction.....

We gain at most 2 Senate seats.

We lose House seats, and barely maintain our completely useless majority.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 11:47:36 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: grumpygresh
Why should the GOP pass anything?

They won't. They're just going through this ridiculous kabuki dance to satisfy their corporate masters. If the Republicans really did push an amnesty bill through to a vote, they'd be decimated in the Fall. They all know this, but can't say no to the people they really work for.

13 posted on 02/02/2014 11:53:38 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: zeestephen

“My on the record most optimistic 2014 prediction..... We gain at most 2 Senate seats. We lose House seats, and barely maintain our completely useless majority.”

Yes, you are an optimist. I think that the gop faction of the uniparty gets pretty much nothing out of the election in the Senate, perhaps even loses a seat or two and loses a few house seats.

An outside possibility is the gop faction loses the house. Most house seats are so carefully gerrymandered that a dinner plate with the appropriate R or D after it would win, so I think that’s unlikely. The way the gop faction attacks it’s base, though, puts that in the realm of possibility.


14 posted on 02/02/2014 12:03:59 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Windflier

So then, Boner will do it on December 24th at 11:59 PM, 2014, you get my drift.


15 posted on 02/02/2014 12:10:20 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Could you imagine having this puke and that sniveling rat Romney stabbing us in the back every day? And to think we all voted for this weasel last election.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 12:12:29 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Fractal Trader

Any deal that includes a path to citizenship is no deal, it’s a complete cave.

Because Obama WILL NOT execute his side of ANY deal.

Basically you can’t make a deal with someone who lies and wont follow through on their end of the bargain.


17 posted on 02/02/2014 12:16:09 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: grumpygresh
So then, Boner will do it on December 24th at 11:59 PM, 2014

He may try, but we'll still be in no mood for amnesty. There is a point at which a people can stand no more, and that would probably be it. Does he really want to pull the pin on that grenade?

18 posted on 02/02/2014 12:41:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Maybe the Gee Oh Pee has realized we find them only slightly less loathesome than the Dems.


19 posted on 02/02/2014 1:07:15 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Windflier

That’s one of the best explanations I’ve heard on this, yet.


20 posted on 02/02/2014 1:08:41 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Fractal Trader

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said distrust of President Barack Obama runs so deep in the Republican caucus that he’s skeptical the GOP-led House would pass any immigration measure. Mistrust of the GOP-E AND Barry Obammy should kill this piece of excrement, but,,, never underestimate the stupid GOP in their ability to screw this country.


21 posted on 02/02/2014 1:29:55 PM PST by contrarian (vote them out one at a time..starve the the gop-e, replace them with a democrat.. what diff ?)
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To: Fractal Trader

Listen for the wailing of the Banshees (Democrats).


22 posted on 02/02/2014 2:02:52 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Perdogg
They are going to wait for the lame duck session to pass unpopular laws.

Give it a break.

23 posted on 02/02/2014 2:03:57 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEZ PING


24 posted on 02/02/2014 2:04:51 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Maybe the Gee Oh Pee has realized we find them only slightly less loathesome than the Dems.

Oh, they're definitely 'feeling' us.

It's why Romney and the GOP-e barred Sarah Palin and the Tea Party from the 2012 convention. It's why McCain called Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul, "wacko birds". It's why Mitch McConnell said the Tea Party needs to be "punched in the nose".

The scumlords of the Republican party hate us even worse than they hate their 'friends' across the aisle.

25 posted on 02/02/2014 2:11:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jane Long
That’s one of the best explanations I’ve heard on this, yet.

Jane, I've looked this thing over with a fine toothed comb, and nothing else makes rational sense. No political party commits suicide on purpose. Especially when they've got the upper hand going into an election season.

It's just nuts, ergo, there's a hidden explanation for it that DOES make sense. The only one that registers, is that the crony capitalists and deep pocketed donors in the US Chamber of Commerce, are forcing Boehner, et al, to go for this stupid, stupid amnesty bill right now.

Boehner knows better than to take this poison pill right now. The very fact that he is, tells you that he's following some else's dictates. I can only imagine the sort of hate mail he's getting right now from the voters back home. They've got to be freakin livid.

26 posted on 02/02/2014 2:18:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Liz; La Lydia

I had to watch that interview., No matter how many times he was asked about immigration reform Ryan dodged each question by changing the subject.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 4:07:45 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: RKBA Democrat

It will all depend on Black and Hispanic turn out for an off year election.

The Democrats got crushed in 2010 because Conservative white voter turn out was unusually high, and Black and Hispanic turn out was unusually low.

The Democrats are completely focused on turn out in Texas and Georgia for 2014.

I believe we could lose 2 House seats in Texas, one more in Georgia, plus a serious risk of losing the Senate seat in Georgia.

Nation wide, if Black and Hispanic voters turn out at the same rate as white voters, the GOP is in very serious trouble.


28 posted on 02/02/2014 11:24:03 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

“Nation wide, if Black and Hispanic voters turn out at the same rate as white voters, the GOP is in very serious trouble.”

I think it’s going to be a low turnout election pretty much across the board. Few people are enthused about the choices. The ‘rat faction of the uniparty has the better ground game in general so they’ll do better than the conventional wisdom would indicate.


29 posted on 02/03/2014 2:23:01 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS; La Lydia; no-to-illegals
.....Ryan said Republican's "distrust" of Pres Obama runs deep.......they doubt the administration would enforce any amnesty plan.....

Much as I hate to admit it....that statement does have a powerful resonance.

It taps into a huge mother lode of "distrust" Americans are harboring, due to Obama/Demo's serial lies on Obamacare.

AND Obobo's failure to "enforce" his own signature plan.

I like the parallels they've created.

However, would be nice if Pubbies got their act together---if they left conservatives alone and went after the real culprits tearing down America.

30 posted on 02/03/2014 2:57:56 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; La Lydia; no-to-illegals
RE :”Much as I hate to admit it....that statement does have a powerful resonance”

Be on the watch for another trigger gimmick that 'forces' Obama to enforce immigration laws before the clocks start on permanent legalization. Ryan is a fast talker.

31 posted on 02/03/2014 3:47:01 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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