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In 2013, the US lost 30 people a day to gun violence. Obama shouldn't let us forget
The Guardian ^ | January 31, 2014 | Ana Marie Cox

Posted on 02/02/2014 8:39:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The president should be talking about guns (and gun control) a lot more. This goes way beyond horrific school shootings.

President Obama opened his remarks at McGavock High School in Nashville, Tennessee with a brief mourning of the death of a student there on Tuesday, the day of his State of the Union speech. Obama mentioned gun violence once in his address to the nation. Again yesterday, the bulk of his speech was about education policy, not gun control.

The fact that McGovock was itself the site of a gun fatality only gave a glancing emphasis on the firearm policies he says he is trying to move forward. The setting perhaps emphasized just as much the futility of the rhetorical gesture. President Obama needs to talk more about gun policies in this country, but he has to do it differently. As horrific as school shootings are, gun violence takes more lives outside our classrooms than in them.

In the five years of Obama's presidency, mass shootings have been the one reliable catalyst for a presidential push on our nation's uniquely liberal firearm laws. He broke a three-year streak of non-engagement on the issue in January 2011, after the shooting of Congresswoman Gabby Giffords and 17 other people in Tucson, Arizona, giving one speech and writing one op-ed calling for more legislation. Then, the White House was for the most part silent for another 10 months, until Newtown. That tragedy brought a flurry of urgent officials pleas: 18 sets of remarks in five months, according to C-SPAN. After that, another season of silence, until the Naval Yard shootings in September 2013....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; newtown; obama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes how many are suicides?


41 posted on 02/02/2014 9:42:22 PM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The world lost 9132 people per day during the Mao and Stalin years.

We should never let people forget.


42 posted on 02/02/2014 9:44:01 PM PST by lurk
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To: P-Marlowe

True and of the incidents which were not suicides, many involve gang violence.

Much of which is gang-on-gang.


43 posted on 02/02/2014 9:58:12 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many of these shootings happened because a victim or bystanders were unarmed?

Why yes we should have a law about guns. Require every sane American to have one. (Kidding, but not much.)


44 posted on 02/02/2014 9:59:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The crowd that draconian attempts at gun regulation would scarcely touch at all.


45 posted on 02/02/2014 10:01:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The statistic includes good guys killing bad guys in self defense and cops shooting robbers.


46 posted on 02/02/2014 10:08:35 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kozy

60%


47 posted on 02/02/2014 10:10:06 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Take drugs and gangs out of the statistics and it will probably drop the number to one a month!
48 posted on 02/02/2014 10:11:40 PM PST by dalereed
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To: drypowder

R.R. was 1981, not 1983.


49 posted on 02/02/2014 10:12:03 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: drypowder

R.R. was 1981.


50 posted on 02/02/2014 10:13:07 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: drypowder

Lincoln was shot in 1865...not ‘63.


51 posted on 02/02/2014 10:14:03 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Reminds me of Archie Bunker’s response to Gloria when she complained about the number of gun deaths - “Would it make yous feel any better if they was shoved out of windows?”


52 posted on 02/02/2014 10:19:02 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: bigheadfred; Secret Agent Man
i have had six screwdrivers while watching the game how much time do i have left

Were they large-capacity assault screwdrivers?

53 posted on 02/02/2014 10:22:56 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is not just Barack Obumbles that is trying to disarm the American people, there are many Republican members of Congress who loath the idea of the American citizen having the capability of telling the Imperial Federal Govt. to “F*ck off “ & be able to back it up with the means to resist to the point of lethal force. In other words it ain’t just the Democrats you gotta keep an eye on.


54 posted on 02/02/2014 11:32:38 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: P-Marlowe
Last 1300 years, each and every year, the world lost on average 40* people every day due to muslim violence.

*-my estimate based on looking at data from the religion of peace, extrapolating the last 13 years to the last 1300 years, give or take...

55 posted on 02/03/2014 1:36:05 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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300 Million people were not shot today.

There are about 300 Million firearms in the US and 11,000 gun deaths (non-suicides) each year.

What’s not known is how many are gang-bangers, police shootings, justifiable homicides, citizens protecting themselves from crime, etc...

About 2,000 of those gun deaths occur in a few cities such as Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, NOLA, Oakland and a few other cities that have been run by Dems for the last 40+ years.

0.999999% of guns were used inappropriately. I would say that 0.999999% is a pretty good safety record.

And let’s not forget the recent CDC survey that Obama had buried showed that up to 3 million self-defense gun uses occur each year by citizens.

Stuff it, you Nancy boy Brits! It’s not NRA members shooting people. It’s a societal issue and blaming guns is an intellectually lazy argument made by intellectually lazy people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLaRR9yVxC4


56 posted on 02/03/2014 2:11:25 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("It's not a good time for me right now" -- http://therealwendy.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not one to make judgements, but I wonder how many of those 30 a day need killing? Maybe we are improving the gene pool.


57 posted on 02/03/2014 3:00:23 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

Hard to say. But a rough statistic like that, with no defining characteristics doesn’t help much, does it?


58 posted on 02/03/2014 3:02:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True, the numbers don’t maen much. One up thread post said 18 are suicides.


59 posted on 02/03/2014 3:03:37 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
My own guess is that there are more than 300 million firearms in the United States. Guns don't wear out nearly as quickly as cars and appliances and a 100-year old 1911 Colt should function much the same as as a 1911 Colt manufactured in 1914. My guess is the total is about 450 million, and my guess could be as good as anyone else.

One reason that the numbers seem large is that the United States is a very large country, compared to other large G8 economically developed countries. We have more than five times the population of the UK. (We're not even highest of the G8, Russia has a murder rate more than twice that if the US.)

According to US gov't statistics, 440,000 die because of smoking each year. http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/

An estimated 300,000 deaths per year may be attributable to obesity. http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/calls/obesity/fact_consequences.html

There have been an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day.http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html

A swimming pool is much more dangerous to a child than a gun.http://freakonomics.com/2006/04/16/are-you-ready-for-swimming-pool-season/>http://freakonomics.com/2006/04/16/are-you-ready-for-swimming-pool-season/

As the number of firearms has been increasing in the US, the number of firearm-related homicides has been falling. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

The majority of firearm homicide victims are black males living in urban areas.http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide

60 posted on 02/03/2014 3:38:17 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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