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Who’s ‘godless’ now? Russia says it’s U.S.
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, January 28, 2014 | Marc Bennetts

Posted on 02/04/2014 1:52:22 PM PST by Sopater

MOSCOW — At the height of the Cold War, it was common for American conservatives to label the officially atheist Soviet Union a “godless nation.”

More than two decades on, history has come full circle, as the Kremlin and its allies in the Russian Orthodox Church hurl the same allegation at the West.

“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”

In his state of the nation address in mid-December, Mr. Putin also portrayed Russia as a staunch defender of “traditional values” against what he depicted as the morally bankrupt West. Social and religious conservatism, the former KGB officer insisted, is the only way to prevent the world from slipping into “chaotic darkness.”

As part of this defense of “Christian values,” Russia has adopted a law banning “homosexual propaganda” and another that makes it a criminal offense to “insult” the religious sensibilities of believers.

The law on religious sensibilities was adopted in the wake of a protest in Moscow’s largest cathedral by a female punk rock group against the Orthodox Church’s support of Mr. Putin. Kremlin-run television said the group’s “demonic” protest was funded by “some Americans.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Russia
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Even Putin sees America's fall from grace...
1 posted on 02/04/2014 1:52:22 PM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Not unless Putin is using “Christian Values” as a cover for something else.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 1:54:06 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Sopater

The ex-KGB snake is *LESS* hostile to the USA than the Prez of the USA.

We elected an occupier.

An angry destroyer.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 1:55:19 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Sopater
Obama cleared it with him first. (The word “flexibility” had more than one meaning, after all.)


4 posted on 02/04/2014 1:55:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Sopater

5 posted on 02/04/2014 1:56:15 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: gaijin

No, he isn’t less hostile.

Looks to me like Obama’s working for him; that’s how things looked from the exchange between Obama and middleman Medvedev.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 1:56:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: gaijin

Apollyon.................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon


7 posted on 02/04/2014 1:57:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Dallas59
Not unless Putin is using “Christian Values” as a cover for something else.

Good point. Liberty is a fundamental Christian value.

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 Corinthians 3:17
8 posted on 02/04/2014 1:57:11 PM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: gaijin
The U.S. CHOSE evil. Stop blaming Obama so much. He's just a symptom.
9 posted on 02/04/2014 2:00:06 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Sopater

I never thought i’d live long enough to wish the leader of Russia were our president instead of who is currently occupying our white house.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 2:01:58 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Sopater

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn saw a decline in values in the West years ago and I agree with him on that.

Putin is far from a perfect leader and I would prefer that people choose to do the right thing and not be dictated into it.

The Russian Orthodox church was a KGB infiltrated institution in the Soviet days and the KGB man now running the show no doubt has it as a tool of his policies.


11 posted on 02/04/2014 2:03:23 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Sopater; All

In before the Gays/Globalists/Soros faction starts whining about Russia....

The US is going Godless


12 posted on 02/04/2014 2:05:01 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: Sopater

We’re not the ones who murdered all the priests and dynamited the churches.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 2:07:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: fwdude
The U.S. CHOSE evil. Stop blaming Obama so much.

yeah huh the u s is just a headless chicken

14 posted on 02/04/2014 2:10:25 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Sopater

In a Russian interview Putin called himself a Buddhist. Obama has already said the US is not a Christian nation, and Obama is happy about it. So I’m not sure who Putin thinks he’s criticizing.


15 posted on 02/04/2014 2:17:31 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Sopater
Well, "liberty" has a bunch of definitions, many of them incompatible with one another.

Just for instance, both the abortion enthusiasts and the sodomite pseudo-marriage promoters claim they are on the side of "liberty."

A great many of the most common uses of "liberty" are against Judeo-Christian morality, or at least extraneous to it.

There are of course solidly Christian usages for that word, but many would be hard-put to define it in an intelligibly Christian way.

16 posted on 02/04/2014 2:21:12 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The problem ain't what folks don't know. It's what they DO know, that ain't so!" - Will Rogers)
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To: Sopater

Americans (and all of the western world) have lost the meaning of freedom.

We were meant to live in freedom UNDER God. We were not meant to live in freedom FROM God. Huge difference.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 2:21:55 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: fwdude

>>The U.S. CHOSE evil. Stop blaming Obama so much. He’s just a symptom.

You’re right.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 2:23:14 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Just for instance, both the abortion enthusiasts and the sodomite pseudo-marriage promoters claim they are on the side of "liberty."

You are exactly right.

However, I deny that their "liberty" includes the ability to infringe on the rights of others. The aborted baby's rights are clearly infringed on - its life is taken.

In the case of homosexual "marriage", they want to take something clearly defined, and clearly understood, and pretend it applies to relationships where it NEVER has. If men can marry men, I can marry my car, or ten men, or twenty women, or...

They don't want "liberty", they want tyranny. With them in charge.

19 posted on 02/04/2014 2:28:40 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There are some who try to force “God” on people and there are others who force “anti-God” on people.

They are both wrong but I see the “anti-God” crowd threatening freedom in this country with every new court ruling.

I believe in freedom for those who the “anti-God” forces are targeting and stand for their freedom under the Constitution.


20 posted on 02/04/2014 2:31:55 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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